have ancillary consequences that harm biden in the long run. i don't know. nunes, this administration and every republican in washington has to deal with the first question first, right? they have to address -- you are right, dave, you are 100% right whether it's 1964, barack obama or all of the thing. in each of those cases what was necessary? transparency. at the end when you screw up you have to go to transparency and that's what they should have done with lois learner and the i.r.s. and what they have to do now. they have to deal with this before they can move on to nunes's suggestion it's about the iowa eye -- caucuses. >> julie: they admit they went ahead and spoke to the ukrainian president. the question is if there is quid pro quo. i'm about to lose my voice. did they do it for $250 million