And now it is a legal term. Ask anybody. Theyll tell you. Thank you, ari. See you later, joy. And we do continue to follow the breaking news tonight that donald trump has received indictment number three, courtesy of the d. C. Grand jury investigating his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. And let us just be clear, this is an historic moment in this country. Never has a president of the United States refused to relinquish power until trump. Never has a former president come up with a conspiracy that involves having their Vice President overturn the will of the people through the use of fake electors until trump. Never has a former president incited an insurrection with armed extremists to storm the u. S. Capitol until trump. And no u. S. President has ever been indicted before trump. And again for trump, this is indictment number three. And in many ways, it is the most historically significant one because its not just about his personal conduct. It is about us, our democracy. And n
but now there s news of this damning tape that s put more focus on a different jurisdiction on that federal probe in washington where trump was caught on tape admitting key parts of a crime, including stealing documents after leaving office. the tape is from after he was in the white house, 2021, and that s bad for him based on what he appears to admit, because prosecutors are already using it while gathering their grand jury testimony, and it s showing jurors how trump acknowledges and admits himself on the tape that he had classified materials. this is a total breakthrough in the evidence in this case. real talk some people might say, all right, ari we already know trump took the documents down to mar-a-lago and the feds seized them and took them back. didn t we know all that? yes, but in court to win a case like this, prosecutors must prove, one, the documents were classified. two, trump willfully took or directed action to take the documents. and three, he intended to kee
watergate where we had richard nixon a unindicted co-conspirator. the reason to that was we needed to admit his tape evidence. as a co-conspirator, his conversations were admissible. i also want to point out we had the entire grand jury come to the courtroom to hand up the indictment. and it was because every one of them wanted to say, yes, we handed up a true bill. yes, we voted that way. we also handed up a road map to impeachment that we got permission from the court to violate grand jury secrecy and turn over to the judiciary committee and that included lies that richard nixon told to the public, which we thought weren t perjury but were impeachable. i want to do a little bit of reporting here. we can now confirm to
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post was what you were remembered by for so many. looking at the documents case, do you think it s the strongest reported now, and what do you think of this reported tape evidence? i do think it s the strongest case against him. it s the greatest legal jeopardy that he faces. i think it s more likely than not he ll be charged. i think if this reporting is accurate, as it seems to be, that raises the percentage chance of him being indicted. i wouldn t go quite so far as others, because i have been on the inside of these investigations, and we can t see what jack smith sees, but it s this is the strongest case against trump i ve seen so far. based on the available evidence, do you think it would be valid to indict him and a good idea? it looks like the evidence is there. donald trump normally his superpower is surrounding himself with an asteroid of confusion and contradiction and sometimes inculpatory statements, sometimes exculpatory, but this seems like