more relaxed this is not anything directed at you. just to close, the secret service protection of mr. trump, i have been on many of these details. let me tell you, they were not at all worried about his security. he's in that large courthouse building. this is outside in a fenced in area with lots of nypd and new york county courts police. they're not worried about that. they would have had protective intelligence special agents outside. they were getting it on their ear plugs right away. they know exactly what's going on, exactly the danger. the danger here is not to mr. trump. the danger here is to the court family, the jurors. for other mentally disturbed individuals, emotional people who can come to this location which is the center now, it kind of becomes a place like the white house or the capitol, you know, where emotionally disturbed people are drawn to it like a magnet. so that's the danger going forward. >> indeed, and michael, so this is -- this is a never before

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