have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. earlier this evening, committee member adam schiff had this message for cipollone. he ought to show just a small portion of the courage that cassidy hutchinson displayed. he needs to come out of hiding. he needs to do his patriotic duty. as we mentioned, cipollone was prominently featured in yesterday s testimony. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. hutchinson also testified abt cipollone s efforts january 6th to get the president to urge h
before her nomination to the supreme court. it is good to see you. luke, let s start with you. you and your colleague maggie haberman a reporting on the cipollone subpoena tonight. he has been resisting former testimony, as liz cheney has been ramping up the public pressure. what do we know about his willingness to cooperate now? we know that the committee s subpoena puts extra leverage on mr. cipollone to come in and testify. my understanding is that as we speak there are negotiations that have started about what he would be willing to talk about, were he to come in. apparently, he s not willing to talk about anything direct conversations with donald trump. and [inaudible] some other topics could perhaps be on the table. that similar to an arrangement that other lawyers for donald trump have agreed to. they have not talked about direct conversations with the president but have been able to talk about other things. pat cipollone did come in and