reintroducing them to india. it was on modi s birthday. explorers have always had the ability to have detente when politics had failed. it was scientists that wanted to exchange information. so, hamish is really part of that great tradition. and, you know, there s so many things when a friend dies, stupid little things, or hugging someone on the summit of a mountain. i guess, you know, what i think about most is the circle of people. he was a pied piper. you know, his when we climbed kilimanjaro together, his son was 15. he brought a whole bunch of friends along that, and he brought other friends from other countries there. and he revelled in them enjoying the experience. and, you know, he was an intellectual guy and certainly had an insatiable curiosity for things. he wanted to share it. i think while it s unfortunate for his son to miss their father, he s laid the groundwork
david, i first want to say, i m so sorry, because we have been talking every day since the titan disappeared, and especially not just about what s happening, but about your friend p.h. our condolences, obviously. we talked last night, you still had hope this was a search and rescue mission, not just a recovery effort. what went through your head today when you heard they had found debris on the ocean floor? kaitlan, i hoped because we had to have hope. that was pretty clear that i think i may have said that somewhere along that the simplest conclusion was right in front of us, that there had been an implosion. we knew about the sound wasn t confirmed. we knew about the loss of communication. it s hard to explain any other way because the vessel was in mid-water. it wasn t snagged on anything. that was the easy, obvious conclusion in the beginning. but we had to have hope. and as i said many times, miracles do happen.
well, david, we re thinking of all of you, of all of your coworkers, everyone who knew p.h. and you for joining us every night to talk about this and for joining us tonight. of course our condolences for the loss of p.h. thank you. thank you, kaitlan. absolutely. up next, we re going to speak with the cofounder of oceangate and what his thoughts are, learning about this. also later tonight, we ll have an update for you on presidential politics and the seemingly always growing republican field. it s grown again today, as another former congressman, will hurd, has joined the 2024 race. he ll tell us why next.
or was it just one of those things. the oceans, just because you pass every test and get every stamp there is to have doesn t mean you re going to have a perfectly safe dive. oceans are full of surprises. it s a hostile place to be. somewhere in between there something that could have happened to any submarine or this was a fundamental design flaw that s going to be the close or closely to the truth about what happened in this case. your friend, p.h., had been on more than 35 dives to the wreckage of the titanic. you talked about his experience. he loved going there. we heard from james cameron, the director of the titanic diver himself. he described him as a legendary submersible dive pilot. we re showing the photo now of the two of you from 2010 in newfoundland in st. john s. as you at that and think back on this, what are you going to remember the most about p.h.? oh, boy, there s so much.
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