explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world s oceans. our hearts are with their families during this tragic time. we grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they know. i mean, you know, there s going to be, again, a lot of back and forth in terms of what information was shared, the types of resources that were used. but, you know, i think you heard anderson touch on this. those in the maritime community really taking this very, very hard, as these men were explorers. they were dedicated to the world that they lived in. so, this is something that is going to be hitting a lot of people very, very hard. just a devastating outcome. jason carroll, thank you. throughout all of this, we have been talking to the oceanographer and deep water search expert, david gallo. his friend, p.h., is one of the five lives who was lost aboard the titan. and david joins us tonight.
i mean, we ve talked, this family at the company we, rms titanicing, about how much we re going to miss him. he was a pain in a butt. as i said, he was as comfortable on the deck of a ship in a hurricane as he was in a parisian cafe. always had a twinkle in his eye and a smirk. always up to trouble. we ve lost an incredible explorer. marine exploration has no lack of egos, and p.h. was aside from all that. he s not a person that wrote books. he s not a person that made movies, starred in documentaries. he just did what he did for the love of what he was doing. and that s something i m going to miss too. and given clearly he had such a love for the titanic and to be able to go down there, to do this as many times as he did,
oceangate, the company, and said, we believe this could lead to catastrophe. with me now is richard wheat, friend of hamish harding, who was on board that titanic-bound submersible today. i want to talk about what james cameron said, and i know you know his expertise here. we talked last night about the hope you still had. what went through your mind when you heard today from the coast guard? it s been surreal for so many of his friends at the explorers club because this is playing out in a very public way. i think all of us almost universally have been on so many chat strands with different people that they think about the family. so, i didn t know the other four men, but i know that their families are going through something that is just rocking their world. and i think that grief is a very universal emotion and that whether your father is a fireman or a soldier in the ukraine or a migrant out at sea, in your world, you know, it s everything. and so with hamish, how do you
mind. that s incredible. it is incredible. and how long did you spend on the titanic? so at that point our pilot gave the control to p.h. so p.h. nargeolet, who you ve been referring to, who is a remarkable man, took the control of it and really toured us around the bow of the titanic. and was he talking about what everything. i mean, we spent all week with him. so we got to know him very well. but he you know, for five hours we got all of his knowledge about the titanic. yeah. and it was incredible. we did try and make a run for the stern, which is about 600 meters away. we couldn t find it. and then we went for the surface. another 2 1/2-hour ride up. well, i m glad you were ok on that. and i appreciate you talking to us tonight. my pleasure. i m sorry it s under these circumstances. colin taylor, thank you. thank you. up next the promises oceangate expeditions made of adventure and safety before its launch. we ll be right back. to debt in e and, no matt
only hear a sound but it s an implosion, which they could tell. those two pieces are you ve got to put them together and say this must be the same event. and does that make you think there was a design flaw with this? i mean, when you hear that that happened that quickly after they started this dive on sunday, what does it tell you about that? i m not an engineer. but i mean, p.h., who is as good as anyone, he s not an engineer either. but when he says, this is safe, this vehicle is a safe vehicle, i have to go with p.h. there s going to be a lot of people commenting about how this was a bad idea, bad design, and tested. almost everyone i know that have been around as long as i have in the ocean game has taken some risk. they didn t end up like this, fortunately. but, so i can t comment. it s not a vehicle i would have gotten into. it s just not my kind of thing