sometimes the conversations can be very long, over three hours. here s a little of one with elon musk last year, which eventually drifted onto the question of the human race beyond earth. could you colonise the galaxy in a million years? absolutely. the entire galaxy. so you would start with mars, build bases on mars, then you d use mars to jump off to all these other planets, set up places there, and over thousands of years, easily.? yeah. kind of like, you know, from one solar system to the next. and.yeah. that s something for us to consider. jake kanter, let s bring you in here, media correspondent at the times. can you explain to us why spotify, a business initially based around music streaming, would move so heavily into podcasting with an exclusive deal withjoe rogan? well, first and foremost, podcasting is absolutely booming at the moment. and joe rogan is perhaps spotify s biggest bet in this area. they ve spent a reported $100 million tying him down
doesn t it, to the fact there are two interesting questions here? one is, should these people even be on his podcast in the first place? but the second is, if they re going to be there, how does he handle what they say? now, batya from newsweek, i definitely want to ask you about that. before we do, though, here s a little of a post that joe rogan put on instagram a few days into this story. one of the things that spotify wants to do that i agree with is that, at the beginning of these controversial podcasts, like specifically ones about covid, is to put a disclaimer and say that you should speak with your physician and that these people and the opinions that they express are contrary to the opinions of the consensus of experts, which i think is very important. sure, have that on there. i m very happy with that. also, i think if there s anything that i ve done that i could do better is have more experts with differing opinions right after i have the controversial ones.
ok, now on bbc news, it s time for the media show. hello, i m ros atkins. welcome to this week s media show. we re going to talk about bbc three because it s back as a linear television channel, six years after the bbc decided it shouldn t be one of those. and we ll talk about spotify and joe rogan. he s in the middle of a storm over covid misinformation that may have been on his podcast, and some people are saying, should spotify really be funding content like that? we will get into all of the issues that raises. let me introduce you to our guests. we have elizabeth dwoskin, silicon valley correspondent at the washington post, jake kanter, media correspondent at the times, rosanna pound woods, who s a producer of the catch up on bbc three, and batya ungar sargon, deputy opinion editor on newsweek.
funding content like that? we will get into all of the issues that raises. let me introduce you to our guests. we have elizabeth dwoskin, silicon valley correspondent at the washington post, jake kanter, media correspondent at the times, rosanna pound woods, who s a producer of the catch up on bbc three, and batya ungar sargon, deputy opinion editor on newsweek. and, batya, i wonder you commission lots of opinion pieces. will you be commissioning something onjoe rogan? yeah, absolutely. so at newsweek, we really try to represent the full breadth of opinion relevant to americans. and so we re going to have pieces on rogan from an independent media point of view, we re going to have pieces from that sort of disinformation point of view, we have pieces talking about how this story is about the culture wars, about the class wars, about the race wars, so really trying to get at that story from all points of view. we ll return to spotify and joe rogan in a moment, but let s, first of all,
up against large institutions. in the music industry, he said, i m going to pull my music. . it s going to be me orjoe rogan. - and thenjoni mitchell followed him. - yesterday, the artist - india.arie followed him. also a popular podcaster, - brene brown, said she would be no longer contributing episodes, so it reallyl ballooned. and then internally as well, spotify s employee base, i which has long been in crisis over rogan, they re actuallyj having a town hall right now over this issue. - ok, and when neil young offered the option to spotify of young or rogan as he put it so far, spotify has chosen rogan. this is a man who s become a podcasting phenomenon. there are millions of downloads for every single podcast. he has millions of followers on social media, and let me give you an idea of what his podcasts are like. sometimes the conversations can be very long, over three hours. here s a little of one with elon musk last year, which eventually drifted onto the question of th