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funding content like that?" we will get into all of the issues that raises. let me introduce you to our guests. we have elizabeth dwoskin, silicon valley correspondent at the washington post, jake kanter, media correspondent at the times, rosanna pound—woods, who's a producer of the catch up on bbc three, and batya ungar—sargon, deputy opinion editor on newsweek. and, batya, i wonder — you commission lots of opinion pieces. will you be commissioning something onjoe rogan? yeah, absolutely. so at newsweek, we really try to represent the full breadth of opinion relevant to americans. and so we're going to have pieces on rogan from an independent media point of view, we're going to have pieces from that sort of disinformation point of view, we have pieces talking about how this story is about the culture wars, about the class wars, about the race wars, so really trying to get at that story from all points of view. we'll return to spotify and joe rogan in a moment, but let's, first of all,

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