people to decide. he is inviting foreign senior level. interference,s allowing foreig i ve got to think there are people who worked on this for governments to decide that for us. months, professionally, mr. e orgoldman, it s been confd carefully, seriously who see mr. that president trump s campaign barr come out and mr. durham who actively sought russia s interferencely in our 2016 until today is. thought to hava good reputation. elections, correct? mr. durham out of the blue what special counsel mueller without offering any receipts, said is that president trump did we don t agree with some of the invite them and solicit them to hack hillary clinton s emails. report s conclusions to the predication of how the fbi case ultimately, the trumpma campaigi think wastr welcomed, knew abou was opened. helpe me out here, david. the interference, welcomed it i thought it s the i.g. that and utilized it. right. audits the u.s. attorneys. and in 2016, trump said russia, why does mr. durham t
either. we have the call record from july 25th. which the president was forced to release. in which the president doesn t bring up corruption. he doesn t say, how are those anticorruption cords going? or, great work in the rada. of course not. what does he say? i want to investigate the bidens, and this debunked conspiracy theory by vladimir putin. that helps me in reelection. so much for fighting corruption. the real u.s. policy message is, don t engage in political investigations. the message from president, however, was the exact opposite. do engage in political corruption , and ultimately come if they want $400 million in u.s. aid, this is what they have to do. the only lament i hear from my colleagues is that it wasn t
his lawyer. were you familiar with that quote? it sounds familiar. and you have a lawyer with you today, ms. yovanovitch? uh-huh. and you understand that lawyers act on their client s behalf. is that right? yes. that it would be improper for a lawyer to go outside any directive that a client gives. is that right? that s my understanding. are you familiar with a new york times story on may 9, 2019 where rudy giuliani said that he intends to visit ukraine and said, we re not meddling in an election. we re meddling in an investigation. are you familiar with that quote? yes. that s 11 days before you were removed as ambassador. is that right? yes. he is talking publicly about designs on coming to ukraine but what i think is interesting is that mr. giuliani says, we re, as in, we are. he doesn t say, i am not
off each other and she was waiting for her next line. reporter: remember, rachel and julie had been friends. her reaction when she heard what sam supposedly did to julie did not seem to match that. i m sorry that i m not the kind of person who just goes berserk and loses their mind when they hear this, and i just sit there in shock and soak it in. you weren t in shock. you weren t in shock. reporter: the young actress was not convincing her audience. everett learned dan had called rachel from jail before his confession. the jail, of course, recorded those calls. babe, um, listen to me. i m gonna go do something right now, and you re not gonna see me for the rest of your life. do you understand that? no! no! she doesn t say, what is it? her response is no, no, no. i think she realizes that her
concrete to help it succeed you re responsible. criminally responsible for that activity. so if rudy giuliani knew about this going on and he was aiding in their efforts, he could get charged. aiding an abetting and happens, the sort of thing charged on a regular basis. i have to say, brooke that is a very interesting answer by rudy giuliani. he doesn t say, they have nothing to flip on. rye didn t do anything wrong. he says, good luck. i mean what a mob boss says. right? when his cop is arrested. good luck. you re never going to flip him. very unusual thing to say. people who don t have criminal culpability aren t concerned about others flipping on them generally because there s nothing to flip regarding. gloria, we laugh, because it s also serious. right? i mean oh, yeah. the question is, why, with all of this coming out, all of these layers on giuliani, at what point does donald trump say, all right, rudy giuliani. bye. we don t need to have we don t need to have this