My ambassador of assistance as well . They did. And if i said that number ambassador sondlands use of was circa in the military that term was that the three assistance around 270 million. Would that probably be people three people in accurate . Close. Charge of the ukrainian about right . Yeah. Did they get aid in policy. He ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come when did you come to learn about fy18 . Yes, sir. Including security mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to assistance . Have been . Including Security Assistance. We have already talked about the javelins, the antitank missiles that they i heard about former mayor were not able to purchase in Previous Administrations. Giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this have they gotten Security Assistance in fy19 . Year. That was a different phase yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a or so that were discussing person who is a priva
26. What did that come to mean . My understanding, ambassador sondlands use of that term was the three people in charge of ukraine policy during the summer where he, gordon sondland, ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come to, when did you come to learn about mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to have been . I first heard about former mayor giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this year, that was a different phase than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a person who is a privat citizen take an active role in foreign diplomacy . I did not find his particular engagement normal, no. Now, Ambassador Taylor, you testified that there are two channels, a regular and irregular. What did you see as Rudy Giulianis role in ukraine policy . Congresswoman, i came to see
that mr. Giuliani had a large influence on the irregular channel. And was that normal . Is that normal to have a private citizen of the United States take an active r
Mr. Eisenberg, he told me to take my concerns to him. And, theres a period of time in it wasnt that long a period of time, but it was enough time for me to enough time to talk to someone who you want i will assume it is, right . Ive been instructed not to, representative jordan. Hes what im getting. He told you not to talk to any of the people and you interpret that as not talking to your boss. But you talked to your brother, you talked to the lawyers, you talked to secretary kent, and the one guy adam schiff will let you tell us who he is. Is that right . Representative jordan, i did my job. Im not saying you didnt. All im saying is the instructions from the lawyer where that you shouldnt talk to
anybody, and you interpret that as dont talk to my boss, but im gonna go talk to someone that we cant even ask you if that individual is. That is incorrect. I just read what you said. I shouldnt talk to any of the people. The time of the gentleman has expired. Im sorry, mr. Chairman, that seq
i was concerned by the call. what i heard was inappropriate. and i reported my concerns to mr. eisenberg. it is improper for 9 the president of the united states to command a foreign government investigate a u.s. stipulate and political opponent. it is also clear that if ukraine proceeded into the investigation into the 2016 elections, the bidens and burisma, that it would be interpreted as a partisan play. it was a bit of an emotional play, in his opening statement, lieutenant colonel vindman thanks his father for leaving the soviet 40 years ago, and bringing their family to the united states. he later drew a round of applause when he explained why he was not afraid to testify yesterday. dad, i m sitting here today in the u.s. capitol talking to our elected professionals, talked to our elected professionals is proof that you made the right decision 40 years ago to leave the soviet union,
comment on that, or if i could sta substantiate that. and that was before it became public, is that right? yes. so former envoy to ukraine kurt volker attempted to testify. just in his last month testimony, volker attempted to clarify with the meeting between gordon sondland and ukrainian officials but yesterday, that story changed. i participated in the july 10th meeting between national security adviser bolton and then ukrainian chairman alex danyliuk. as i remember, the meeting was essentially over when ambassador sondland made a general comment about investigations. i think all of us thought it was inappropriate. the conversation did not continue and the meeting concluded.