senate trial? you know, you always like to hear more testimony. and maybe that will happen. you but i think the point that adam schiff has made is you don t want to allow the administration to play rope-a-dope with the courts and have this delayed and delayed. they have to make a decision and move forward. and the president claims he wants everybody to testify and why doesn t he let them testify. i get that. that is true that house democrats have in the house. but it is a whole new world in the senate. do you think there is a way to compel people in the testify. there may be. when you look at past impeachment hearings, negotiations about who the witnesses are and how they are going to testify. all of that will happen. but the biggest obligation, dana, is to go forward. it is james madison and i like to cite him because he was 5 4 and that is my height for president and he said at the
would you like to see those witnesses testify during a senate trial? you know, you always like to hear more testimony. and maybe that will happen. you but i think the point that adam schiff has made is you don t want to allow the administration to play rope-a-dope with the courts and have this delayed and delayed. they have to make a decision and they re going to move forward. having additional witnesses is always helpful, and the president claims he wants everyone to testify. why doesn t he let them testify. i get that. that is true that house democrats have in the house. but it is a whole new world in the senate. do you think there is a way to compel people in to testify? there may be. when you look at past impeachment hearings, negotiations about who the witnesses are and how they are going to testify. all of that will happen. but the biggest obligation, dana, is to go forward. it is james madison, and i like to cite him because he was 5 4
to this timeline, we keep learning these little threads. does it change anything in terms of calculus for democrats? it probably doesn t in the context of how schiff is proceeding with the impeachment. he s already said, we re not going to play rope-a-dope with people going to court and what have you. and i suspect he knew that other pieces of information, he certainly knew that the southern district of new york was continuing its investigation of rudy giuliani, and as we ve seen there more and more that comes out and the connections to giuliani even met with paul manafort at some point to talk about ukraine. so all at the same time he s trying to change the board of an energy company, a gas company while he s trashing this other energy company and joe biden. so point being, i think schiff and his team understand we have to keep moving with the facts that we have to make our case. at the same time, i don t think it hurts their case to have the other pieces of information out there. b
investigate the bidens. rudy seemed essential essential to this, over there to make the case for zelensky and ukrainians to do this. yes, absolutely. there are some congress men who say we don t want to get bogged down and want the clock to run out and so on, your feeling is this is more important than that, rudy guilliani should be brought up there to testify. jim, i don t want to second-guess chairman schiff. we had the same thing in the last couple of days saying don mcgahn should testify. also, john bolton doesn t seem to be protected by this wide-ranging presidential immunity. however, if they can play rope-a-dope the next couple of months i m sure they don t want to let that drag on. it s a balance. if we can get him in the short run, yes, in the long run, there s enough stuff to proceed
executive and legislative branches. the decision can be bad news for anyone who has worked in the trump white house and is refusing to testify. they could pave the way for some of them, like john bolton, to testify in the impeachment probe. his attorney said bolton was personally involved in matters that are being investigated. the house intelligence committee wrapped up two weeks of public hears. and chairman adam schiff said they could release the report as soon as next week. he warned that that timetable might extend. we don t foreclose the possibility of more depositions and more hearings. we re in the process of getting more documents all the time. that investigative work is going to go on. we re not prepared to wait months and months while the administration plays rope-a-dope in an effort to stall. democrats say those who won t testify might find themselves in additional articles of