wanted president zelensky to do the right thing. i want nothing! i want nothing! i want no quid pro quo. tell zelensky to do the right thing. president zelensky and his team had been told for weeks doing the right thing meant launching those investigations. he was planning to announce them on cnn in fact. the chorus was growing louder on capitol hill for the president to release that money, and he did, knowing what was in the whistleblower complaint and right after democrats launched their investigation. we appreciate it. let s get more on this with democratic congressman, don buyer, with the ways and means committee. thanks for joining us. i want to begin with your response to reporting rudy guilliani was pursuing business deals in ukraine while pushing investigations he thought would benefit the president. what do you make of that? doesn t that raise big red flags?
investigate the bidens. rudy seemed essential essential to this, over there to make the case for zelensky and ukrainians to do this. yes, absolutely. there are some congress men who say we don t want to get bogged down and want the clock to run out and so on, your feeling is this is more important than that, rudy guilliani should be brought up there to testify. jim, i don t want to second-guess chairman schiff. we had the same thing in the last couple of days saying don mcgahn should testify. also, john bolton doesn t seem to be protected by this wide-ranging presidential immunity. however, if they can play rope-a-dope the next couple of months i m sure they don t want to let that drag on. it s a balance. if we can get him in the short run, yes, in the long run, there s enough stuff to proceed