campaign from his former bos and 2020 and today mike penc appeared before the grand jury investigating january six. what his testimony could mea for the special counsel. and then the parents of louisville shooter speak out i an emotional interview what are they are saying about for real change. and it is more than just hollywood magic, how artificia intelligence is transforming movies, music, and eve politics but at what cost as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night goo evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live fro washington d.c. tonight wher there is a major development i the special counse investigation into forme president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election according to a source familiar with the matter, today, former vice president mike penc testified for hours before the federal grand jury in the case the january six committe already shed some light on wha pence did that day in th capitol riot we have seen video of then vic president p
made for tv, the point tha he s making is important donal trump knew that the vice president mike pence s life wa in danger, his staff was telling him as such, eve knowing that he still tweete what he tweeted on that day. the crowd was yelling hang mik pence, i don t know what other battery needs to put in your back to know that you need t stand up there and tell th special counsel, the america people what they need to kno about donald trump, what h said, the man to try to have been killed. he did not care about hi quality of life and the fact that this happened now, i want to remind the american peopl is not because he wanted to go he was subpoenaed. true point. let s talk about ron desantis, not in florida today, of all the places he could be he is i israel, he has not announced h is running for president but his overseas clearly tried t play up his foreign policy credentials and take swipes of
at that point, does not really impact at the crux of this case, what this case is all about, which is what donald trump did and the pressure campaign that he put on him. mister baker, can you decod donald trump s reaction for us because you saw that clip when our colleague john allen was speaking and he said oh i have a lot of confidence in mik pence. if donald trump has so muc confidence in mike pence, wh did he go to multiple courts t try to block him from this ver testimony? because he does not actuall have a lot of confidence i mike pence he has told us that, he is tol us that repeatedly when he went down fo interviews with for a book about. this email is very clear tha he consider mike pence to be a trader for his, cause to b disloyal, and that he was said by aides in the white house to have said that on january 6t that perhaps the protests tour chanting hang mike pence had i right. so he did not in fact have a lot of confidence in mike, pansies made that very clear time and
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they re so many times wher they were the only people in the room, mike donald trump an mike pence what do you think it s beyond times of this has already happened the onl thing that i can say about pence aside, the only thing can say on the air about mik pence is that of all the peopl who could run against donald trump pence is the only one wh had a legitimate region whic is trump try to kill him, he left them up there to die. if that s what you can sa on air what can t you say of air? we will talk after th break. pence owes this guy nothing, h owes nothing and i heard one o your previous guest talk about where does mike pence lays i the presidential race, how about you do well by the country, you are the vic president of the united states yes he did well on january six after funding and looking at his golden god i m glad he did the right thing and i m glad he s alive, but this is th bare minimum he could do for the american republic. the point that read galen