campaign from his former bos and 2020 and today mike penc appeared before the grand jury investigating january six. what his testimony could mea for the special counsel. and then the parents of louisville shooter speak out i an emotional interview what are they are saying about for real change. and it is more than just hollywood magic, how artificia intelligence is transforming movies, music, and eve politics but at what cost as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night goo evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live fro washington d.c. tonight wher there is a major development i the special counse investigation into forme president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election according to a source familiar with the matter, today, former vice president mike penc testified for hours before the federal grand jury in the case the january six committe already shed some light on wha pence did that day in th capitol riot we have seen video of then vic president p
being? we like a turtle? come on man. seriously? i m jonathan kaye part, this is the sunday show. this sunday, we are getting ready for the january six committees, primetime hearing, this thursday. that will focus on donald trump s 187 minutes of inaction, during the insurrection. crucial to that recounting, could be deleted text messages from the day before, and day of the insurrection. the committee has subpoenaed the secret service, to turn over phone records, by tuesday. after the inspector general, for homeland security, reported the missing messages. at the last hearing, the committee revealed, that trump is accused of witness tampering. a source tells nbc news, he tried to call a member of the white house support staff, who has been talking to the panel. the committee is also considering seeking testimony, from former vice president, mike pence. and trump himself. and trump s legal woes, extend beyond what is happening in washington. this week, yahoo news reported th
what was it? [ sighs ] i can t remember. top of the hour on cnn newsroom. good to have you along. i m victor blackwell. we re starting this hour with the questions of potential legal jeopardy for former president donald trump and his attorney john eastman. the january 6th committee made its most forceful case yet that trump was responsible for the capitol insurrection. this was their third hearing and the committee revealed evidence that trump and eastman knew that their plot to push then vice president mike pence to delay the certification of the election results was not legal but kept unrelenting pressure on pence anyway, with trump berating and cursing at him on the phone. listen to former trump white house lawyer eric herschmann on his conversation with john eastman. i said are you out of your effing mind, and that was pretty blunt. i said, you re completely crazy. you re going to cause riots in the streets. and he said words to the effect of there s been violence in
made for tv, the point tha he s making is important donal trump knew that the vice president mike pence s life wa in danger, his staff was telling him as such, eve knowing that he still tweete what he tweeted on that day. the crowd was yelling hang mik pence, i don t know what other battery needs to put in your back to know that you need t stand up there and tell th special counsel, the america people what they need to kno about donald trump, what h said, the man to try to have been killed. he did not care about hi quality of life and the fact that this happened now, i want to remind the american peopl is not because he wanted to go he was subpoenaed. true point. let s talk about ron desantis, not in florida today, of all the places he could be he is i israel, he has not announced h is running for president but his overseas clearly tried t play up his foreign policy credentials and take swipes of
the decision the american people, we know a lot about the planning now. and the execution we are to learn this week about his failure to intervene, even though he knew it was happening at the capitol. what are you hoping to hear during thursday s hearing? this was a part that i particularly focused, on any pitchman hearing. this is what donald trump did, when the violence began to break out of the capital, that he had inside. the answer is, he did absolutely nothing. he endangered his vice president, endangered members of congress, the capitol police, and despite the fact that he, members of his family, close members of his administration, were begging him to intervene, he simply refused. even though they were yelling hang mike pence, he was gleeful about that. i think this is a good example about his responsibility as president of united states, to protect our democracy. he was derelict in that responsibility, and i think that what the january six