campaign from his former bos and 2020 and today mike penc appeared before the grand jury investigating january six. what his testimony could mea for the special counsel. and then the parents of louisville shooter speak out i an emotional interview what are they are saying about for real change. and it is more than just hollywood magic, how artificia intelligence is transforming movies, music, and eve politics but at what cost as the 11th hour gets underway on this thursday night goo evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle live fro washington d.c. tonight wher there is a major development i the special counse investigation into forme president donald trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election according to a source familiar with the matter, today, former vice president mike penc testified for hours before the federal grand jury in the case the january six committe already shed some light on wha pence did that day in th capitol riot we have seen video of then vic president p
at that point, does not really impact at the crux of this case, what this case is all about, which is what donald trump did and the pressure campaign that he put on him. mister baker, can you decod donald trump s reaction for us because you saw that clip when our colleague john allen was speaking and he said oh i have a lot of confidence in mik pence. if donald trump has so muc confidence in mike pence, wh did he go to multiple courts t try to block him from this ver testimony? because he does not actuall have a lot of confidence i mike pence he has told us that, he is tol us that repeatedly when he went down fo interviews with for a book about. this email is very clear tha he consider mike pence to be a trader for his, cause to b disloyal, and that he was said by aides in the white house to have said that on january 6t that perhaps the protests tour chanting hang mike pence had i right. so he did not in fact have a lot of confidence in mike, pansies made that very clear time and