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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:29:00

Trump and won t, what will they see this verdict as? a new york city jury coming to this verdict and donald trump maybe going out there and saying listen, clearly, the jury was confused because they said i didn t rape her. i think that s the heart of the question here going forward. i was talking to some young republican voters here who were standing by donald trump. i asked them about january 6th and each grimaced saying they didn t agree with it but want him back in the white house for a myriad of other reasons. took away from that was a conversation i had with an all lie of liz cheney. he went up in the air waves in new hampshire today with an attack ad warning about what is to come if donald trump is back in the oval office again because when you re talking about donald trump s character, for eight years, republican voters have answered the question. they have pushed aside these cases. whether it be january 6th or

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:38:00

so roberta kaplin has spoken to reporters. she said all of we re very happy. carroll did not say anything. she might have said something as she was trying to get into the car. i want to ask you about the access hollywood tape. were you still with speaker ryan when that came out? i was. what was it like? i think we saw the same blowback that it seems to be what we understand likely happened here. the speaker said we didn t defend this person anymore and realized quickly that s not where the party was. that was seen as giving into the left somehow. as you articulated very well, he tends to use these things to his advantage. add a bludgeon, i think i said. he play it is victim very well and people go along with

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:56:00

Back with the breaking news, donald trump has been found liable for sexual abuse and defamation. and e. jean carroll has been awarded $5 million in damages for both of those things. we saw e. jean carroll leave the courthouse a few minutes ago. she as you can see right there walked out holding the hands of her lawyers smiling, did not speak to reporters unless she spoke to the giant gaggle she had to pass through to get into her car, but she did not approach the microphones. joe tacopina has not said anything to the gathered press. we ll wait and see if he does. let s talk about, though, the other cases donald trump is currently facing because this is just one of many. and let s bring in the once again senior legal correspondent laura jarrett and nbc legal analyst joyce vance.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:47:00

Some weird and unusual behavior. those are not my words. those are the words of carroll s own attorney in her closing argument. she had to address that because even she realized that carroll had some conduct she had to explain that might have seemed unusual to the jury. that plus the fact they couldn t articulate a date of the assault, but the plaintiff s case only got better from there because they had corroborating evidence. not in the form of an eyewitness. it s in the likely the case in sexual assault cases because assailants isolate their victims. but she had corroboration in the form of people she contacted about this around the time of the assault. then you had scientific evidence. a psychologist explaining this is why people behave the way they do after they re attacked. that helped the laintiff, too, but far and away, the evidence that most helped the plaintiff was generated by the defendant

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:04:00

Wasn t applicable to her circumstances. i m expecting a verdict for carroll today. we ll see what happens. the jury has just been called to order. the verdict is being read. we re going to get it any moment now. lisa, when we re considering what donald trump is being accused of here and what he could be found liable for, we re talking about battery, defamation and damages. how much the jury thinks that e. jean carroll should be awarded if they find carroll did these things to compensate her. that number, do we have an estimate of how high that number of could go? i do and i don t. carroll s lawyers put on an expert who s a professor of markets and social media and she estimated to repair carroll s reputation, it would cost somewhere between $350,000 and

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