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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:22:00

Trump was like an octopus. she was seated next to him on a plane. she couldn t keep his hands off of her. he had 40 zillion hands, she said. vaughn hillyard, we haven t explicitly said this, but let s say it now. this is a former president of the united states being found liable not just for defamation, but for sexually assaulting a woman. and part of what makes this so monumental is that there were so many allegations in 2016 and beyond that donald trump did just that to a lot of different women. he always denied each and every one. sometimes he would say i ve never met the person. sometimes he would say they re not my type. he said that about jessica and also carroll. that s the where kaplin replayed that video deposition where he

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:50:00

Video deposition where he told e. jean carroll s lawyer that she was not his type. that she wasn t the type of person that he would want to i guess sexually abuse was the, or would get involved with. that s what he says in the video deposition when asked about the allegation of rape by e. jean carroll. the trump campaign team has released a statement. trump 2024 spokesman. he says the democratic party s never ending witch hunt of president trump hit a new low today. in jurisdictions controlled by the democratic party, our nation s justice system is now totally made up claims from troubled individuals to interfere with our elections. doing great damage. so saying this verdict is an interference with the 2024 election. make no mistake this entire bogus case is a political endeavor targeting president trump because he s an

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:44:00

Standards of proof. the evidence. but presumably, they were persuaded quite powerfully by the testimony they heard from carroll over the course of two days. they heard from two other women. they actually heard from two other women that testified that he assaulted them as well. claims he denied to be sure but the point of those stories was to show he has a playbook. he has a pattern. jessica, who says he assaulted her on a plane many years ago and natasha who said he assaulted her when she was writing a people magazine article about him down at mar-a-lago, i believe while melania was pregnant. it was a big story at the time. the message this sends, is it dear former presidents, you can t get away with it forever? doesn t matter who you are, you can t get away with it forever. that was certainly the core of the closing argument yesterday from carroll s

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:49:00

Essentially said that s locker room talk. i don t mean that. but now here in present day in the deposition, he appears to have said yeah, that s what i said and it s true. you better believe he handed the plaintiff gold. gold that the plaintiff used in her closing argument. kaplin knew what she had been handed and she used it in her case and it may have made the case for the plaintiff. which is pretty amazing considering that evidence came. it was unnecessary. and it came from one source. donald trump himself. when you re a star, they let you do it, he said on that access hollywood tape then in the video deposition, he said that stars have been doing it for a million years. unfortunately or fortunately. there was also as you mentioned, him mistaking e. jean carroll for marla maples, his ex-wife, which carroll s attorney said showed she was actually his type. there was also the moment in the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:32:00

Liable for that. liable for defamation. the burden here for donald trump to be found liable is lower than in a criminal case. it s not without a doubt, it s a preponderance of evidence and that is what carroll s lawyers were able to do. prove a preponderance of evidence show he was liable for sexual abuse and defamation and they have awarded carroll about $5 million for all that. i want to go back to lisa ruben. any chance that donald trump s team appeal this is? i think it s possible that they will. but i don t expect joe to be part of that appeal. i think it was clear to those of us watching that as the end of the trial neared, he was getting increasingly exasperated with

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