senior leaders, so now the white house is we're not going it talk -- to talk about this, and i suspect the message is deescalation. in the end, i have seen it many many times, in a conflict in which both sides consider their vital interests at stake, the influence of outside parties, the leverage of outside parties is very limited. and this region is filled with the remains of great powers. their schemes, their dreams, their ambitions that they thought they could impose on smaller ones. this is an example of that. six months of war, an inability to find a way out, the biden administration, very tough lift, and even now, i think all they can do, the best they can do is manage and contain. >> aaron david miller, you're always such a wealth of knowledge. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> we appreciate your expertise. that's for sure. up next, we'll take you back