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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:57:00

So we have a verdict today on the e. jean carroll case. i m not sure if she was on anyone s bingo card even a few months ago as a case we might see or that we were anticipating in the early parts of this year. but we still have the georgia case. we still have the alvin bragg case. we still have the classified documents case at mar-a-lago, and the january 6th case. so what is your expectation for how the next few months and the rest of this year is going to go, joyce? right. so this will be a litigation heavy year for donald trump. and unlike this case, katie, which was a civil case, the cases you re identifying are all criminal cases. and the difference obviously is at the end of those cases that trump is held accountable, he faces a prison sentence not just a significant fine like the $5 million in damages that were awarded to carroll in this case. but also that litigation becomes cumulative.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:30:00

Sexual assault allegations. she said the attention shouldn t be about the past, but it s about what risk he poses to the american democracy and to our institutions going forward and now you have a clear cut example based off a jury s conclusion that he in fact sexually abused a woman. so for donald trump, tomorrow night, he s going to be here in a televised town hall, hour long. he is going to be taking questions from republican and independent voters and the question is how does he respond. earlier today, he put on a social media post that he was forced to be silent. that he wasn t given the opportunity to defend himself and the carroll case, his defense attorney made the decision not to bring him to the stand here. but the question is does he even attempt to answer these questions and how does he try to somehow turn a very difficult

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:25:00

Eight years come to his defense on these multiple allegations. you saw in october, i remember being in indianapolis, indiana with mike pence when he was questioning whether to stick on the ticket or not. ultimately, about 36 hours later, he was back on that campaign trial and what is notable about this is that you have in that deposition, donald trump on camera here yet again suggesting in a separate incident other than access hollywood tape, suggesting that quote in which he said in that deposition, upon being asked whether the comments in that access hollywood case were true, he said well, that s what if you look over the last million years, i guess that s been largely true. not always, but largely true. unfortunately or fortunately. in terms of the question of whether stars are able to do whatever they want to women. unfortunately or fortunately. now a jury has made this determination and the question here is what does this politically impact him or does it not? let s talk about t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:08:00

Is no. this is the verdict. yes to number two. did donald trump sexually abuse miss carroll. the answer from the jury is yes. so no on rape. yes on sexually abuse. down to number four. on the jury form. miss carroll was injured as a result of mr. trump s conduct. the answer to that is yes. and they have awarded her $2 million. $2 million. the answer to was she injured as a result of mr. trump s conduct, yes. no on rape, yes on sexual assault. sexually abused. excuse me. now we are looking at question number five. this is mr. trump s conduct was willfully negligent, reckless or done with a conscious disregard, the answer from the jury is yes. the award in damages is $20,000.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:16:00

Up. i saw her growing up on tv. so they awarded those things. there were those aspects to this case that make it somewhat unique and allowed the plaintiff, carroll, to bring in witnesses and bring in witnesses and testimony that really helped push the ball down the, over the goal line if you will. again, it wasn t just he said she said. it was she said and there are 11 witnesses. those four others also said and they so they backed up her story and she was on the witness stand just a very compelling witness. she stuck to her story. there was the moment where joe challenged why didn t you scream and she pushed back hard and said sometimes women scream. sometimes they don t. it doesn t matter.

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