Precisely because of this. i am astonished they awarded carroll a total of $5 million. one of the things i think is really interesting here is they didn t find there was intercourse between mr. trump and carroll. that s the difference between the rape and sexual abuse components of battery, but they did find that he touched her in an unwanted way in either her sexual or intimate parts for the purposes of gratifying himself and that is a meaningful, meaningful finding. i can t imagine what carroll s face looks like reegt now and i wish i were there to see it. lisa, thank you very much. stick with us because we re going to go over this more. ron allen, you were also covering this trial from the start. at one point, there was a note about a couple of the jurors appears falling asleep during roberta kaplin s closing remarks.
Judge and said, yes, this was his verdict, too. so there is some astonishment on my part about that. we will see whether any of these jurors notwithstanding the fact we don t know their names, will be allowed to be contacted by media and will reach out. i hope we ll get insight into their thinking as the days go on. what do you think of the first charge here that donald trump raped carroll? the jury finding he did not. they re saying no to rape, but yes to sexual assault. where do you think the disconnect is there? i m going to ask for your pardon because i m about to get graphic. she said she couldn t really see whether donald trump was penetrating her with his genitalia. she knew he had first inserted his fingers into her vagina. she felt him do that. then she thought she was
And, let s be frank. talking about a woman the jury just found was sexually abused. how do you turn that on his head despite his past denying. so we re looking at the doors. the doors of the courthouse. we re waiting for e. jean carroll to come out, for the lawyers. here is e. jean carroll right now. let s see if she approaches the microphones and speaks to reporters. just one statement please. does not appear she s going to approach the microphones but we are going to keep watching. it appears like she s just going to get in her car and leave. yeah. we ll see if she says anything in that scrum of reporters there if she s mentioning anything about the verdict. again, this is a civil case. no it s not a conviction. it is a verdict. he s not guilty. he s liable for sexual abuse.
Overwhelming front-runner to be once again elected president of the united states. she brought this case before donald trump announced he was running. the continued abuse for political ends is disgusting and cannot be tolerated. our nation is in serious trouble when claims lacking any evidence or proof or eyewitnesses can invade our courts to score political points. sadlies for the enemy of democracy and american freedom president trump will never stop fighting for the american people. this kill will be appealed and we ll ultimately win. they re saying it s going to be appealed. let s see if that paperwork is filed. this is steve chung linking this election to 2024 and what they re saying an attack on the former president and trying to make it an attack on his voters. we re going to sneak in a very quick break. we ll talk about the other cases against trump and where they currently stand. also the latest on the e. jean carroll verdict. again, donald trump found liable
His ex-wife, marla maples. he said she couldn t give a date to when the rape occurred. he said how do you prove a negative? kaplin said put two things together. one, carroll, exactly trump s type, and two, trump told you what his m.o. is on the access hollywood tape. she said the evidence shows overwhelmingly trump followed this playbook and in the dressing room grabbed carroll by the genitals. he said carroll s team wants you to hate him. hate trump. hate him enough to ignore the facts to focus on anything but the story. joining me now from outside the courthouse is ron allen and lisa ruben. also with me is vaughn hillyard. i keep looking down because i ve got this note from one of our producers in the room and he s going to be populating that note with the verdict. lisa, you ve been inside this