whether they can develop any kind of consensus and hold their own party together. does congresswoman greene have the power that she sort of indicated in that quote that she gave to you? yes. the short answer is yes. she is a representative of the maga base, which constitutes a very, very loud minority within the republican party, and has succeeded in cowing the majority of the more establishment wing to go along for fear they will be primaried. as my in my book reporting, i heard time and again democrats would say establishment republicans, how can you let her get away with saying what she is saying. but if they say something to her, they will be primaried. she still seems to indicate interest in support of or
bannon has really stepped in, i think, more than any other figure and filled part of that. not all of that, because i think limbaugh was kind of singular. but as we get closer to 2024, do you see bannon taking any official role in a trump campaign? great question. great point about the media, too. going to your conversation earlier about some of these murdoch papers breaking off and seeming to turn against trump, to me, that feels like history repeating itself. you go back to 2015 and 16 when trump first came out. there was a big struggle within conservative media. bannon was really the guy that was fighting against fox news and murdoch and what he called the establishment wing of the conservative media. trump won the war. fox news today looks more like breitbart news, you know, in 2015, in 2016.
it lives on today and that s why this hearing is so important, still. they are candidates, running across the country that are election deniers they re running prior to january six trying to hold office. this fall, and that should be very alarming to all of us. i m glad you mentioned the election across the country, it s very easy to focus our ire and outrage on donald trump. but sadly, the republican party that you remember of, establishment wing is also complicit in all of this. we know about kevin mccarthy s hundred and 18 degrees uterine, from january six which have since been leaked and now is loyal to trump and he s against the committee, we had king as a committee member saying the republican party failed the american people you have senators like bill haggerty,
allen, one of the many heavy-hitters on this piece. it boils down to this senator mcconnell seems to be involved in a proxy war with desantis and trump. do i have that right? right. the mcconnell side will not say that s what s going on, if you look at what s going on across the country, the fight with desantis trump is having and now given an opportunity desantis to go on the podcast making shots at trump. what you seen is mitch mcconnell fighting for that establishment wing of the republican party that diminished wing of the republican party, kind of a survival part remember mitch mcconnell the sphere of it. the only republican in the establishment leadership position who isn t challenging the results of the election or cowtailing to former president trump. you make that point. not only that, john, all tow, you can look at the way senator mcconnell cast his votes related to trump in the past, they
establishment wing of the democratic party. shontel brown defeated nina turner in a special primary election in ohio s 11th congressional district. former president trump flexed his own muscle. mike carey beat a crowded republican field for the 15th district there. geoff zeleny joins me now. geoff, what does this tell us about what might happen in the midterms? reporter: it tells us president trump has big power with his base. that was a crowded field, some 11 candidates. he candidate won by about 20 points. on the democratic side we ve