hostile to other people. they do this through -- what you are seeing, through these candidates now, with refusing to call out black supremacy -- by saying that when black people see there is a racial issue, racial progress, they discount the fact that that is a real thing. they say that this is an illusion, that white supremacy is a myth, and that on one end of the scale, helps to create the environment of permissibility. that environment trickles down to the violent people. to call them out is to implicate themselves. >> yes, very much so. we are going beyond permissibility. we are entering into the world of victim blaming. gop presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy said this on this morning. >> i'm genuinely worried that we're seeing a new wave of anti black and anti hispanic racism. as a consequence of the so-called anti-racist sentiments. >> that's an astonishingly offensive thing to say. irresponsible as well in the wake of a mass shooting. >> obviously, i would not expect less at this point. it is to their advantage because they are the party that is this muscular interpretation of the second amendment. the party that insists upon making guns available. even in circumstances where the democratic process would require that the people have a