department on mar-a-lago. he s being represented by stanley woodward who is also will not his lawyer. who s being paid for by donald trump super pack were has been paid by trump super pac. that seems interesting to me, because if one of his clients is potentially cooperating witness, and the other s time a tricky opposed to him legally speaking, how do you represent both of them without a conflict of interest? i don t know. there is a conflict there as far as we can tell looking from the outside. that is a clear conflict. i would be surprised if that is not raised by the prosecution, and they don t ask the judge for what is called a to decide whether, objectively whether or not there is intact conflict, and so i think that that is one of the things that we can probably look to see. there s so many question marks and so many more questions that i have including everything that you just raised. thank you so much for your time, please hang with us, we have a lot more to get to in to
absolutely, the reference to the boss, them monitoring the situation and reporting back to him. and them stating over and over again what his desires were. the boss wants to see this destroyed, and that is really damning evidence against him. my second question, though, is, danya, the boss wanting this stuff deleted, i m not a lawyer, is that circumstantial, though, because it s not a direct conversation with donald trump. it s someone saying the boss wants this deleted. does that matter if they don t have someone on the record saying trump told me to delete it, it s basically saying the boss wants it deleted. that will come in because there s conspiracy counts here and a scheme alleged, statements in a civil trial would be considered hearsay can come in against the defendant. so that should come in. note a lot is riding on employee number 4 clearly who is we re
employee number 4 is the head of the i.t. department at mar-a-lago, he s being represented by stanley woodward who s also walt nauta s lawyer who s being paid for by donald trump s super-pack or has been paid for by the trump super-pack. that seems interesting to me, danya. if one of his clients is a potentially cooperating witness and the other is diametrically opposed to him legally speaking, how do you represent both of them without a conflict of interest? i don t know. that s a clear conflict and i d be surprised if that s not raised by the prosecution and they don t ask the judge for a hearing. but it s really do decide objectively whether or not there is, in fact, a conflict. and so i think that s one of the things we can probably look to see. there are so many like question marks and so many more questions that i have including everything you just raised, so, danya, thank you so much for
all of those people, danya, are being represented by stanley woodward. does this for close the possibility that any of them are gonna never cooperate the federal government? and should we assume none of those people are cooperating at this point? it probably is a thumb on the scale against cooperation. as andrew said, it can be consistent with a pickle obligations. there s also no inherent problem with someone else paying legal bills. it happens all the time. oftentimes our prosecutor races this potential conflict a judge will hold a hearing. and determine for itself whether or not through s conflict. and sometimes it ll kick a lawyer off. i haven t seen that happen in this case but there is some potential for that. but certainly, that s how people at the top keep the people at the bottom. yeah, they re all paid by the trump save america super pac. i need to ask you in terms what
twice before special counsel grand juries. once reportedly for smith s investigation into trump s use of election fraud claims to fund-raise after the 2020 election. and then another time as part of the mar-a-lago documents investigation. william russell seems to know a lot about almost everything. so, what was he doing with the grand jury today and what can that tell us about where this whole investigation stands? joining us now is down a perry, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, and andrew weizmann, you may have heard, of them lead prosecutor for special counsel robert mueller and coast of the must listen to podcasts prosecuting donald trump. andrew, danya, great to see you in the flesh as this, the prognostication continues about what s happening here. andrew, let me start with you in terms of the presence of will wrestle testifying today. what does this tell you about where we are in the january six investigation? first, there s nothing