admiral kirby told us that it wasn t that out of the norm. there were times when the secretary of state would listen in on the phone calls in his experience if it had something to do with their area of expertise. so, susan, who knows? that s one of the questions that we have, obviously, and you know, jeffrey, just about that phone call, just from a 30,000-foot view. i have trump supporters saying that s how he talks. he s a new york city wheeler and dealer, do me a favor, it s his colloquialism and if you listen to the sausage being made on every president on what s supposed to be a priefvate phon call, maybe it would sound different, too. do me a favor, is it a real problem? remember, we re in the impeachment area now. we re not in the law enforcement area. an impeachable offense is what congress decides it is. so it may be well and good that
they thought you were using the queens english, basically. what do you think? what s your retort to that? i m getting torn up by my fellow black people. they re pulling me down for not explicitly stating it like we might do up in the hood. and then i get points is cory code switching right now, talking to different people in different ways. in a debate you get up there in front of millions of americans, to have the vice president of the united states distorting your record, do it with a smile and come back with a colloquialism we use in our communities. for the record there, mayor gillum recused himself. i m not getting involved in that all. by the way, those folks that were coming to be their friends, we ll have some conversations off camera. senator cory booker, great to see you this morning.
national security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with him where he asked me what my political affiliation was, what my political leanings were, it was always just the facts approach, and as the old colloquialism is that the fbi at that time was an equal opportunity investigator. whether you re a republican, democrat, independent, no party affiliation, whatever, the idea was if there are credible allegations that you have violated a federal law that the fbi has jurisdiction for then the fbi would follow up and conduct a thorough investigation that is impartial without regard to politics or any outside influence. and i think that s what he tried to adhere to, and i think that s what he did in his special counsel role, it just wasn t a tour de force in terms of his testimony today. so no concerns about him getting
once to ask someone about their political affiliation. it is not done. what i care about is the capability of the individual to do the job and do the job quickly and seriously and with integrity. listen, it s obvious, it was live and then there is a tape right there. he seemed to come to life when he was defending his team. was that the robert mueller you know? well, yes, and, again, as his deputy director for almost six years and then the head of national security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with him where he asked me what my political affiliation was, what my political leanings were, it was always just the facts approach, and as the old colloquialism is that the fbi at that time was an equal opportunity investigator. whether you re a republican, democrat, independent, no party affiliation, whatever, the idea was if there are credible allegations that you have violated a federal law that th
he testified but for the olc report. we have that now. however, barr, was the but for. we want i want to get a louie gohmert. get it go back and forth it was interesting. the point where was occlusion, was it conspiracy? that whole convoluted conversation that went on between mueller and another lawmaker. tom: that was addressing. i think the point of that exchange was to basically try and rebut the president s tweets saying they found no collusion. the point that i think they are trying to bring out at the hearing is that collusion is defined in the federal criminal code is not the the dash i thot it was fairly effective. when people speak colloquially in plain english they will often say collusion, experience a don t act on my confederacy it basically means the same thing. i think it was basic at the point. harris: it seems like he was saying it for us that they were kind of, as you say, colloquialism. kind of equal. then legally not equal. it was really confusing. tom: