national security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with him where he asked me what my political affiliation was, what my political leanings were, it was always just the facts approach, and as the old colloquialism is that the fbi at that time was an equal opportunity investigator. whether you re a republican, democrat, independent, no party affiliation, whatever, the idea was if there are credible allegations that you have violated a federal law that the fbi has jurisdiction for then the fbi would follow up and conduct a thorough investigation that is impartial without regard to politics or any outside influence. and i think that s what he tried to adhere to, and i think that s what he did in his special counsel role, it just wasn t a tour de force in terms of his testimony today. so no concerns about him getting
impeachment. mmm-hmm. and he didn t want to come out and say it, but yeah. there is no other explanation. also you talked about the exchange on obstruction. there was also the collusion versus conspiracy exchange that happened with georgia republican doug collins. let s watch it. collusion and conspiracy are essentially synonymous terms, correct? no. if no, on page 180 of volume i of your report, you wrote as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in a general statute. are you sitting here testifying something different than what your report states? i i leave it with the report. there was rapid fire, like yeah. but so what that was i think was trying to save the last of the big three because right off the bat we lost no obstruction, right? i think the first answer mueller gave all day was false. second question was total and
also you talked about the exchange on obstruction. there was also the collusion versus conspiracy exchange that happened with georgia republican doug collins. let s watch it. collusion and conspiracy are essentially synonymous terms, correct? no. if no, on page 180 of volume 1 of your report, you wrote as defined in legal dictionaries, collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute. are you sitting here testifying something different than what your report states? i i leave it with the report. there was rapid fire, like yeah. but so what that was i think was trying to save the last of the big three because right off the bat we lost no obstruction, right? i think the first answer mueller gave all day was false. second question was total and complete exoneration. should they have just stopped at nadler? honestly, we were saying if they had said we rest, that s it.
once to ask someone about their political affiliation. it is not done. what i care about is the capability of the individual to do the job and do the job quickly and seriously and with integrity. listen, it s obvious, it was live and then there is a tape right there. he seemed to come to life when he was defending his team. was that the robert mueller you know? well, yes, and, again, as his deputy director for almost six years and then the head of national security and counterterrorism before that, so a total of nine years working closely with him after 9/11, i never had an exchange with him where he asked me what my political affiliation was, what my political leanings were, it was always just the facts approach, and as the old colloquialism is that the fbi at that time was an equal opportunity investigator. whether you re a republican, democrat, independent, no party affiliation, whatever, the idea was if there are credible allegations that you have violated a federal law that th
interfering apart from the collusion and say they are concerned about one and want to prevent one. that doesn t give space. democrats, however, early on made one about the other. maria: those numbers aren t surprising. the number i m very heartened by is the one that he should not be fired. i have think most americans should agree that he can finish out his investigation and it s important. katie: to address your argument of needing to separate the two collusion versus other, that may be true. however, this investigation is not separated that way. i mean, you have the indictments that have come down being not about collusion but about personal business dealings and lying to the fbi. it s difficult to separate those two things when the investigation itself isn t mixing them together. maria: interesting part of the investigation i think we will hear more about is the obstruction of justice piece. we focus so much on the collusion piece, but i think we are going to focus more on t