the conspiracy to interfere in the election and the obstruction of justice have to be looked at and looked at carefully. but the money is in new york. whether it s the trump foundation, the trump organization, the inaugural committee, the campaign, or personal finances and taxes, that s what southern district of new york is looking at. what do you make of what chris christie said, where he called both rick gates and michael cohen tour guides for this investigation? i think it s sort of a it s a colloquialism. anybody who is honest can help investigators figure out the path. you want to call them tour guides, fine, but they re cooperating witnesses. they know where the bodies are buried. i don t mean that literally. but they re going to be able to help the fbi and the prosecutors unwind this thing. this is only one grand jury subpoena that we ve seen. i imagine that there are dozens,
the idea of race. the issue of race. and in mississippi, 37% african-american population, a comment like that is just not a southern colloquialism. no one had heard it ever before as a joke. so it was bizarre and i still don t understand exactly what she meant by it. certainly not a compliment, you know? think about what happened since you posted that video. at at&t, which is owned by cnn along with google and walmart and other big companies moved to pull their financial support for hyde smith, tried to take back their donations. that s one example of what happened since you published the video. what did it mean for you as a web journalist, someone who runs a nonprofit news website, what does it tell us about the world today that you were able to get millions of views for this video, cause all of these reactions from these companies and maybe change the course of the race in mississippi? right. sometimes social media like in 2016, we know that social media was essentially hijacke
hardball. i mean, i heard what she said. i have to confess to you i ve never heard that type of colloquialism. i can t reach into her heart and determine why that came out of her mouth, but it was wrong. these comments have harmed our state. you know, gene, you and i are both sons of south. obviously, your experience is far different than mine. but we both went to public schools. with we both went to football and basketball games. georgia, alabama, mississippi, florida, i lived in all of those states. people didn t walk around talking about i like billy bob so much that i d take a coca-cola and a hot dog and watch a public hanging with him. no, that s just like monkeying it up in florida. isn t it something that we have
things up. i lived in georgia, alabama, mississippi, northwest florida, for 45 years. never once did i hear anybody talking about public hanging in a positive way, that i like jimmy so much, you know what? i may just meet him one night at a public hanging. nor did i ever hear anything like that. and i grew up at a time when people were were fighting for voting rights, people were fighting for, you know, against segregated accommodate additions. there were parts of my state where my family you know, my father wouldn t drive. he just wouldn t go down certain roads because it was they were known as sort of klan country. and even then, the idea that anyone would speak like that about a public hanging and try to pass that off as some sort of colloquialism, some sort of, you
for more, mike espy, the former secretary of agriculture in the clinton administration. mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. hi. hi, chris. don t monkey up this race. and people come up with i know now there are talkers like me and there are listeners, and a sensitive talker knows that there are listeners. but your thoughts historically? well, first, chris, happy veteran s day. and thank you so much for having me on. thank you. i heard what she said. i have to confess to you i ve never heard that time of colloquialism, you know? that comment that she made was very disappointing and harmful. disappointing to millions of mississippians of good will, but very harmful because it again reinforces stereo types that we ve been trying to get away from for decades. stereotypes that just continue to harm our economy and costs us jobs. i don t know, i can t reach into her heart and determine why that came out of her mouth. but it was wrong.