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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

my heart breaks. casinos, charisma, connections. he was mr. big. he was very dark flamboyant. extremely charming. his murder was big to. a car explosion at a posh resort, somebody wanted to make a statement. who would want him dead? or who wouldn t? a string of angry investors, even whispers about the mob. everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? she was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. she s the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new end. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson, arizona and here, in the shadows of the majes

Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:15:00

i ve never seen an assassination of this kind. if in fact it was a hit, it probably was a professional hits. could the sheriff be right? if so, who hired a hitman? who wanted triano dead? he was very flamboyant, very outgoing, engaging. he ran in real big circles, running around with donald trump, people like that. and he was throwing money around? yes. and so when a flamboyant guy dies in a flamboyant way yeah. people start thinking? you tie him with big money, flamboyant lifestyle, casinos, then he s killed in a car bombing? everyone makes this automatic assumption that that has to be some mob related hit. and as investigators look more closely into garry s finances, they saw only red ink. by the late eighties, the tucson real estate market had crashed and gary s bottom line took hit after hit. investors learned that in 1994,

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:14:00

that would make me believe that someone is watching, and that he is on to it. and we have to detonate it now, before he realizes what it is and has a chance to escape. clearly, the killer had to know something about triano s daily routine. but detective james gamber soon discovered that a lot of people did. he had virtually no sense of personal security. he never locked his car, wouldn t lock his house. so someone with intel or information on gary s lifestyle could easily have set him up. and it appeared someone had checked on gary s whereabouts that day. what was interesting is that the day of the murder, someone called and asked if he was playing golf? man or woman? man, never identified. the very spectacle of a car bombing at a posh resort made an impact on camber s boss. then sheriff clarence dubnick.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:09:00

ever see pam phillips returned to the united states to face charges? because, by then, detective james gamber had learned pam was no longer in switzerland. and it s like i told heather, i said pam has disappeared. we don t know where she is anymore she could be anywhere in the world. and i said the sheriff told me to find her. and i said, they are asking me to pull a rabbit out of my hat, i don t think i have any more updates. you are feeling defeated? yes. and what did you think, you are never going to see pam phillips again? yes. coming up. i think she was cold and calculated. so calculating she could allude the cops. the worldwide hunt for the socialite suspect is on. she had thought that she had gotten away with this. when dateline continues.

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