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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

my heart breaks. casinos, charisma, connections. he was mr. big. he was very dark flamboyant. extremely charming. his murder was big to. a car explosion at a posh resort, somebody wanted to make a statement. who would want him dead? or who wouldn t? a string of angry investors, even whispers about the mob. everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? she was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. she s the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new end. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson, arizona and here, in the shadows of the majes

Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240707

everybody went, oh, this is mob connected. so why would police focus on her, a beautiful socialite, ex-wife number two? it was very intoxicating. i think she was cold and calculating. maybe her former husband was worth more dead than alive. it s easy to blame the rich, beautiful woman. the person everyone loves to hate. but she is completely innocent. or maybe it was someone else entirely. he is obsessed with gary triano, obsessed with him. it s a case we investigated for more than five years. now a stunning new in. we are going back up under a rollercoaster. spend a little time in tucson arizona and here, in the shadows of the majestic saguaros you will find a thriving metropolis of 1 million people, with a surprising small town feel. it s the kind of place where everyone seems to know everyone. and if you ask anyone from tucson where they were on november 1st, 1996, they will tell you it was the day of a murder. so dramatic, so horrific they will never f

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:03:00

as his bank he was earning 4% interest on his 400,000. why would someone who had committed a murder, a murder for hire, keep detailed records that would essentially prove their own involvement and that of the person they hired? two reasons, i think one if your ego is that big. if you think you will not get caught you are too smart to get caught. and to, your saving it as evidence or as a threat something to hold over your coconspirators. in case she stops thing? yes. ron young was sentenced to ten months in federal prison on gun possession charges. the fraud charges were eventually dismissed. detectives still did not have enough to charge ron young with gary triano s murder. but they did have enough to turn up the heat on pam. we went up to aspen and filed for a search warrant and also let me search her house. but in her home, they didn t find anything related to ron

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:38:00

well detective james gamber and keith st. john were there when the call came into the sherrif s department at tucson. it certainly got investigators attention, especially when they learned more about what was found in that van. there was a map of tucson and handwritten notes with the names and types of cars driven by some of gary triano s business associates, family and friends, including his niece melissa and one time girlfriend taylor. and there was more. and then we found a receipt for a hotel here in tucson, where ron young stayed in the hotel, for 18 days, during the summer of 1996. which would be, what, a few months before gary triano was killed? yeah. and what was interesting about his choice of hotels, it was geographically almost halfway between where gary triano lived and the la paloma country club. where he played golf every day? yes. and even more suspicious, ron young stayed under a phony name. the name of one of the people he was accused of defrauding in a

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:30:00

but detective james gamber s investigation showed that pam was in aspen, not tucson, on the day of the murder. and pam the socialite certainly seemed more bombshell then bomb maker. and i m guessing pam phillips is probably not someone you thought was thinking around building a pipe bomb? no. detective james gamber and his team seemed to be had another dead end, until an alert detective 800 miles away happened to catch a news report about the bombing. and some bells went off. coming up . i found a note in the car, buy toothpaste, and down a little further was saw off shotgun. what could that have to do with the murder of gary triano? when dateline continues. i was always so itchy especially when i was hot.

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