and there was no evidence that ron young was in tucson when the bomb went off. anything in ron young s record or possession that suggested he either knew how to or was involved in building a remote control bomb? no. and he s got no history of working with explosives? that s correct. still, detective james gamber desperately wanted to talk with ron young. aspen police was looking for him, they had an active fugitive case going on him, because they had a fraud warrant. but he basically just fell off the face of the earth. who was ron young? and what was his relationship with pam phillips? nine days after the murder of her ex husband, pam phillips agreed to come down to the sheriff s department for an interview. and that conversation was recorded. i want to ask you about your relationship with ron young. yeah. coming up .
playing golf? man or woman? man, never identified. it made an impact on camber s boss. then sheriff clarence dubnick. i ve never seen an assassination of this kind. if in fact it was a hit, it probably was a professional hits. reporter: could the sheriff be right? if so, who hired a hitman? who wanted triano dead? he was very flamboyant, very outgoing, engaging. he ran in real big circles, running around with donald trump, people like that. and he was throwing money around? yes. and so when a flamboyant guy dies in a flamboyant way yeah. people start thinking? you tie him with big money, flamboyant lifestyle, casinos, then killed in a car bombing? everyone makes this automatic assumption that that has to be some mob related hit. reporter: and as
the face of the earth. reporter: who was ron young? and what was his relationship with pam phillips? nine days after the murder of her ex husband, pam phillips agreed to come down to the sheriff s department for an interview. and that conversation was recorded. i want to ask you about your relationship with ron young. yeah. reporter: coming up . the word that i was getting was that it was his former wife. and that this was his insurance policy. reporter: pam phillips date with detectives. she knew he was going to be scrutinized. reporter: too many reasons to be suspicious? we have this life insurance policy. gary is the one that took this out and he also insisted that it be in my name. reporter: when dateline
five star hotel. maybe it s proof, that if you do enough shopping, sometimes you find exactly what you are looking for. just basically living the very affluent lifestyle she didn t need to work, apparently. back in pam phillips s former country of residence, and november, 2009. three of gary triano s children won their wrongful death lawsuit against pam phillips. a judge ordered her to pay them $10 million. but gary triano s friends and family wondered, would they ever see pam phillips returned to the united states to face charges? because, by then, detective james gamber had learned pam was no longer in switzerland. and it s like i told heather, i said pam has disappeared. we don t know where she is anymore she could be anywhere in the world. and i said the sheriff told me to find her. and i said, they are asking me to pull a rabbit out of my hat, i don t think i have any more updates. you are feeling defeated? yes. and what did you think, you are never going to see pam ph
$10 million. but gary triano s friends and family wondered, would they ever see pam phillips returned to the united states to face charges? because, by then, detective james gamber had learned pam was no longer in switzerland. and it s like i told heather, i said pam has disappeared. we don t know where she is anymore she could be anywhere in the world. and i said the sheriff told me to find her. and i said, they are asking me to pull a rabbit out of my hat, i don t think i have any more updates. you are feeling defeated? yes. and what did you think, you are never going to see pam phillips again? yes. coming up . i think she was cold and calculated. so calculating she could allude the cops. the worldwide hunt for the socialite suspect is on. she had thought that she had gotten away with this. when dateline continues. dateline continues making friends again, billy?