that involved a lot of alcohol consumption. she wanted to take the time to consider whether she was absolutely confident to a point where she knew this would rip apart her life and she would be the subject of this partisan sniping you ve seen today. she in the end decided she was that sure. i would just say that that is a typical kind of process for women coming forward in the stories that i ve done about difficult stories of trauma which are often affected by factors like alcohol, like the age of the allegations. and what about the assertions tonight by judge kavanaugh? he said it repeatedly tonight in that interview that the new york times had and the new york times is reporting that miss ramirez had talked to former yale classmates and to some expressed saying she wasn t sure if it was kavanaugh. we disclosed a very similar language in our own piece that we called dozens of individuals. certainly that she was talking to people during this process of considering her recol
defend himself publicly. well, a fox news interview is not the same as an fbi interview, and if he s willing to talk to fox news about his views, i don t understand why he s unwilling to talk to the fbi so they can do a proper investigation. he said over and over again, he wants a fair hearing. well, a fair hearing means you have an fbi that investigates the facts, establishes a set of facts, that interviews not only kavanaugh but krob wacorroborai witnesses then have a hearing where it s not a he said/ she said scenario but a scenario where you have people who have knowledge of these events. i d like to hear mark judge testify under oath, not only the fbi but any hearing. i d also like to here from tar therapist, have her produce her knowns from dr. blasey ford s husband and her friend and other corroborating witnesses with the second allegation. at this point, it doesn t seem like any of those things are going to happen, certainly. no fbi further background investigation. no othe
restraint from the president on the notion of getting an opportunity to fire somebody he didn t like, hasn t liked for a long time, and at least for now, is not doing it. maggie, you have new reporting tonight that concerns chief of staff john kelly. this was, indeed, not true. but they had some discussion about rosenstein resigning. my understanding from two people who were briefed on what took place, john kelly made clear he expected the president was going to be quite angry about this. the president for whatever reason, whether because of the political ramifications which i do think is the main one, whether it s because he touched the hot stove once before by firing james comey and what he got as a result is robert mueller and doesn t want to go through that unknown again or whether he s distracted by brett
to judge kavanaugh. that she wanted to carefully consider what she was going to say and how before she did so. in terms of her motivation for speaking to you, as you said, she didn t want to at first, correct? and she, you know, she had doubts about her own memory. she had questions about it, correct? she wanted to take as much time as she needed to come to a place where she was certain she wanted to upend her life for this. and that did include looking at every piece of this that she had vivid memories of. the voices she heard, the faces she saw. and really making sure that there was no doubt in her mind. and until she decided there was no doubt, she didn t want to speak publicly. and what you pointed out is often lost in the conversation here. i think about both dr. ford and also about miss ramirez. these are not women who came out publicly of their own volition. these are both cases where the senate began looking at this. dr. ford sent a letter but she intended that to be anonym
contained gaps because she d been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. judge kavanaugh flat-out denies it. additionally, miss ramirez s two attorneys have not responded to cnn s requests to confirm the accounts she gave the new yorker, despite multiple communications with both of them. they ve repeatedly declined to comment on the record about whether her allegations that brett kavanaugh exposed himself to her are accurate. with that said, the new yorker s ronan farrow joins us now. ronan, thanks for being with us. people who haven t read the article yet, can you just explain what your reporting is on this miss ramirez, what her allegation is? certainly. she alleges that at a dorm room party when she and brett kavanaugh were freshmen, he exposed himself and attempted to force his penis into her face and she has vivid memories of moments of that. she also was extremely cautious. as you pointed out. she pointed out wherever she felt there was a gap in her memory, due to he