themselves in the rural areas around major population centers and the fear is if americans pull out, those population centers are going to be overrun. if the afghani taliban has always been a haven for al qaeda, never backed away for this and not just al qaeda but a number of other groups, like the one behind the mumbai attack and pakistani taliban, which claimed an attempted attack in times square a couple of years ago. at the same time you spent time recently in syria. yes. and there s talk about isis being resurgent in of this sm z places. how do we describe it? pompeo said they don t control land, the caliphate. there may be fancy footwork going on there. what do we need to know about terrorist groups, isis in particular, in iraq and syria? it was clear when i was there in february and first days of march that isis had never been defeated. this was a group that still had
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u.s. troops drew down, and now we re seeing this horrific response whether it s a sign of weakness or strength is really something that i don t know if we can answer. right. richard, anma, thank you for your insight. thank you for being with me. i want to talk to marc ginsberg who served for middle east policy. good to see you. unfortunately in a horrendous situation. tell us what you think the taliban is trying to establish here. they re getting you know, we ve been seeing headlines by isis and different groups and now the taliban is saying well here we are and this is what we feel we need to do. well, jose, just the other day there was a who are effect attack by the afghanistan taliban inside kabul. what we re seeing as american troops, as richard said as american troops are drawing down the capacity for the afghani
government and the united states. they encourage them to be held in pakistan. it s likely to be the pakistani and not the afghani taliban that captured him. they have different leaders and very different goals that complicated all negotiations. all of this comes as the white house is waiting on hamid karzai to sign a long-term agreement that the taliban can decide how many troops they will keep. he refused to sign this agreement and it s not clear what type of military presence the united states will have after this year. they will elect a new president in april and all of the major candidates have said they support a u.s. presence in afghanistan post 2014, but the ta was a really bad speller? your word is.cow.
particularly, what is different about this conversation is that the afghans themselves are now seized and concerned about this as we have been. that wasn t always the case. john: general martin dempsey in exclusive interview with general griffin talking about the green on blue attacks. there have been 32 so them this year. ten service members died in last couple of weeks. is there a plan to deal with that? i hope the chairman of the joints chiefs is right that there is some response and engagement on the part of the afghanistan police and president karzai. he has not been reliable partner in the past. afghan police security forces have been disappointing to say the least. and al-qaeda and hakani and pakistani taliban and afghani taliban, all the forces are thriving and growing in