u.s. troops drew down, and now we re seeing this horrific response whether it s a sign of weakness or strength is really something that i don t know if we can answer. right. richard, anma, thank you for your insight. thank you for being with me. i want to talk to marc ginsberg who served for middle east policy. good to see you. unfortunately in a horrendous situation. tell us what you think the taliban is trying to establish here. they re getting you know, we ve been seeing headlines by isis and different groups and now the taliban is saying well here we are and this is what we feel we need to do. well, jose, just the other day there was a who are effect attack by the afghanistan taliban inside kabul. what we re seeing as american troops, as richard said as american troops are drawing down the capacity for the afghani