obama and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu are going to great lengths to look and sound like they're on the same page. today there were handshakes, there were photo ops, there were a whole lot of cameras in that room. the two-hour meeting followed by a working lunch and lots of friendly language. >> the bond between our two countries is unbrackable. >> iran viewed the united states and israel as one and the same. >> you know, for them, you're the great satan. we're the little satan. for them, we are you and you are us. and you know something, mr. president? at least on this last point, i think they're right. we are you and you are us. we're together. >> but if you listen closely, it's not so cut and dry. there is reason to think the two countries may not be standing together so closely when it comes to iran. here's president obama again. >> we do believe there is still a window that allows for a diplomatic resolution to this issue. >> and here's the prime minister. >> we've waited for diplomacy to work. we've waited for sanctions to work. none of us can afford to wait much longer. as prime minister of israel, i will never let my people live in the shadow of annihilation. >> now, we spoke to several u.s. diplomats and senior military advisers today to try to read between the lines. most agreed with colonel cedrick layton. foreign member of the joint staff and former deputy director of the national security agency. he told us quote the talks in d.c. make a unilateral israeli attack less likely in the next few months, but stresses, quote, today's discussions bought us a little time. nothing more. the bottom line is neither israel or the united states say they will accept a nuclear armed iran, but they don't agree on when to intervene. militari militarily. the diplomatic detente and they chose today to repeat warnings about possible quote activities including a containment chamber used for high-explosives tests at iran's site. inspectors have been denied access to the site in recent months. the head of the iaea says -- the agency continues to have serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to iran's nuclear activities. with worries about iran causing oil prices to rise, can president obama keep israel from military action? will sanctions work? that really is perhaps the most crucial question we are facing right now when it comes to iran. netanyahu's former chief of staff. wrote an op ed this weekend. the iranian american journalist is also author of "begs to differ." appreciate you being here. smilingly coming into the segment you are side by side. let me start with you, neftali. obviously, this has been much reported on, leon panetta saying israel could be prepared to strike iran militarily this spring. did this meeting change that timing? >> i think the good news from this summit is that obama made very clear that iran is a mortal danger to america's national interest and the entire world and that he's now adopting the doctrine of prevention rather than accepting a nuclear iran. the bad news is that words said in washington don't stop the installation of centrifuges. as these talks are going on, chief inspector emanuel of the u.n. reports that iran has tripled the pace of production of uranium, that they're moving installations underground, and pretty shortly the window of opportunity to take out these nuclear facilities is going to be closed for israel. and i think that's the crux of the problem. >> how big that window is. in your view. >> exactly. and i think it's important to emphasize there's going to be a certain period where israel can no longer do the job and then essentially, obama is telling israel, you depend on us. trust us. but does it make sense for the israeli nation to sort of outsource our very existence to obama? that's a very tough request to ask. i don't think we can accept it. >> i'm going to ask you more about timing in a moment. let me ask you a fundamental question here about the sanctions. obviously, president obama is relying on them and has put crippling sanctions. he's gotten europe on board. not countries yet like china. but you are very skeptical as to what those sanctions might achieve. >> absolutely. i mean, i don't know that sanctions are going to achieve anything. if the sanctions hatch the goal to change the regime's behavior, iran's behavior, that's not going to happen. nobody inside iran believes the sanctions are going to make iran capitulate to american demands. demands that they stop enrichment. demands they stop their nuclear program, which they claim is for peaceful purposes. and if the sanctions have the side goal of changing the regime by forcing the people to suffer so much they rise and up overthrow the ren jet stream, that's not going to happen either. so what is the goal? we talk about diplomacy, but there really isn't any. there has not been diplomacy with iran. there have only be sanctions, only sticks and no carrots. nothing has been offered to iran. >> what carrot could president obama offer? >> it depends on what your goal is. first of all. right now, contrary to what the israeli government says and our own government says, is that iran has not made a decision to build a bomb. iran has not moved forward with the weapons program. >> then sanctions themselves if that's true, are not justifiable. >> no. >> you can't say you're putting sanctions, you won't have a bomb if you don't think they're trying to do that. >> exactly. >> there's nothing locally consistent about that. >> it's completely inconsistent. leon pan net that and president obama has said they have not made that decision to build a bomb or move forward with weaponization. >> i think no one in the world anymore has a doubt of iran's intent. i mean, you don't build just over the past two months, you don't install 2,600 centrifuges underground if you're not going to use it for weapons. you don't enrich uranium 20% for 109 kilograms of that for peaceful reasons. you don't develop weaponized warheads for peaceful uses. i think that's behind us. regarding the sanctions, i do agree that the current sanction architecture is too soft, too slow, to make any dent. perhaps paralyzing sanctions will do the job. for sure the current sanctions will not. >> one question. is it possible that iran is doing all these things because they want it to look like they're trying to go down that way because it's pride. they want to show they can and after all israel has nuclear weapons and isn't supposed to and they want to show they can do that, even though they're not really? that this is bluffing? >> that's unlikely. our history teaches us something very simple. when a leader, when a foreign leader says he's going to annihilate you, believe him. we're listening to what ahmadinejad says, what khomenei says, israel is a cancer and we're going to remove it. we take this threat seriously and so does president obama. that's good news. president obama has none of the doubts that my friend here is talking about. >> we have to remember -- >> some of these deputies have been indicating as such. recently. they've been coming out with this whole question on intent. can i ask each of you, this is something more and more people have been asking me about. what if iran gets nuclear weapons capability. some people say, so what? what's wrong with containment? >> i think the notion that a maniacal, radical islamic regime will be able to be contained, that the same rules of rationality apply on all minute jad as they did on the soviet uni union, is insane. i think the soviet union or anyone accept iran has never talked about annihilating a different nation and that's what iran is doing day in and day out. but i think iran, there's no doubt today iran is the world's biggest exporter of terror. they're killing people all around the world. they're the lifeline of assad's regime right now that's butchering thousands of syrians -- >> obama has accused the revolutionary guard -- >> russia is the lifeline of assad's regime, not iran. russ russia's a far more powerful country. if russia took away its support, he would probably fall, so that's unfair to say. iran, to talk about them as saying they want to wipe another country off the map, they want to annihilate israel, that's not actually true. they've never said they want to, or they are going to build a bomb and destroy israel. that's just -- >> last week, one of their senior military officials said if israel threatens them, they're going to wipe them off the map. >> remind ourselves, all minute jad said israel must be wiped off the map like a dead rat, the shout of the iranian nation is forever death to israel. i've got 20 quotes of this maniacal leader of iran saying we're going to kill you. i take him seriously. >> final word to you. if it goes in that direction, could containment be a policy we should consider? >> absolutely. i think it should be if it goes in that direction. i think we still have a lot of time to get to the point to even goes there to begin with, but if it were to happen, i don't think iran is any more dangerous as a country. it's not going to protect the ren jet stream, nuclear weapons aren't going to protect the regime. in terms of maniacal, stalin is maniacal. how many millions of his own people did he kill? i don't think iran is ever going to use a nuclear weapon if they decide to build one. >> appreciate you coming on side by side. it's going to be fascinating to see how this plays out. we're just hours away from super tuesday. one question, can mitt romney clinch the nomination tomorrow? and then the woman known as dr. feelgood is in custody. she wrote, hold on for this, 25 prescriptions per day for these pain killers. a break in the case of a woman found murdered in her mercedes. will her husband be taken into custody? ♪ [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? 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>> ten states vote tomorrow. over 400 delegate at stake. which is more than all of the primary days so far combined. now, a lot of these states are up for grabs. just take a look at this one cnn poll from ohio, which everyone knows is a crucial state. for the general election. dead heat. not even statistical. literal dead heat. between santorum and romney. historically, super tuesday is when the nomination is clinched. reag reagan, bush, clinton, mckale, all emerged after the big day. but nobody will walk away with the actual nomination. not as many states as last time and this whole proportional allocation thing, that's a real problem. some of those guys probably regret it now. unfortunately for the gop they have caused this to drag out. this has been going on and destroying the party's image. a new poll says 4 in 10 americans say the primary process has left them with a less favorable impression of the republican party. okay, so great to have you with us. i appreciate it. let's talk first of all about what everybody needs to do tomorrow to actually win this thing. mitt romney is the guy people are looking at to see if he can do it. john avalon, he's got to win a majority of delegates. >> yeah, i think the bar's pretty high, but he's won five states in a row. the big mo seems to be behind mitt romney. the key is to get out from behind his strength in massachusetts, vot. he'll win virginia because almost no one else is on the ballot. but can he win ohio? that would be a major momentum changer because santorum had double dig leads. can he start edging into other states in the west, in the dope south. that will be a real test about his strength. >> kevin, can he win ohio? >> i do believe he can. i think john's right. i think, look. this is a campaign that has been built organizationally to win delegates. but most importantly, we're in a position now, governor romney is, to consolidate a lot of the different elements in the party that have been competing across the party for who would make the best nominee -- who would make the best nom hee. because governor romney has spent the last few contests focusing on the economy, he's done very well. by focusing on the economy, he's also done very well to help serve his argument about electability. we'll sit here after these contests tomorrow and wake up wednesday morning. we'll have a candidate that is best positioned to bring the party together and that will be another big selling point. going forward for many republicans. >> so rick santorum, what does he have to do tomorrow? john avalon was thinking about this today. ohio, tennessee and oklahoma. first of all, john, is he out if he doesn't win anything? >> i don't think anybody's out. the math means this will go on. nobody will clinch the nomination tomorrow. that's just the facts. it's a momentum test. but clearly, if rick santorum after that three straight sweep he had, he's had narrow wins. if he can't put some serious wins on the board that's a major negative. he had a double-digit lead in ohio. now this is neck and neck. but he should have solid strength in oklahoma and in tennessee. but he's got to put real wins on the board tonight to show he's going to be the last man standing against mitt romney. >> jamal, this is got to be for the guys you're advising, some pretty good news. this long, drawn-out battle has hurt mitt romney significantly when it comes to approval rating. 40% unfavorable rating. which i believe is worse than any other recent candidate in american history who has gone on to win the nomination. according to the nbc/"wall street journal" poll. you're i'm sure hoping the ground battle continues, yeah? >> yeah. this is good not just for democrats, it's good because it's helping america get a real eye in. the one thing that's true about presidential campaigns is they start to reflect and reveal who these candidates are as people. i think the bigger problem for mitt romney right now is a lack of leadership he's been showing. a couple of weeks ago when rick santorum said going to college made barack obama -- wanting kids to go to college made barack obama a snob, mitt romney isn't stand up to that. he didn't have much to say. rush limbaugh used that bad word about the georgia law student, mitt romney didn't have much to stay. that's the kind of things americans look for you to stand up and corral your people and say, we've gone too far, let's get back to the center of the debate, that's what i think has hurt mitt romney right now. >> interesting point. he did give the least shutdown kind of comment about rush limbaugh. certainly rick santorum was much stronger in saying it was absurd. there's also been a backlash to the rush limbaugh situation. advertisers have backed out. a hawaii station has dropped him as well. armed forces network did not. he apologized again today saying he had dropped to the level of the left. here he is. >> i descended to their level. when i used those two words to dekrib sandra fluke. that was my error. i became like them and i again, sincerely apologize to miss fluke for using those two words to describe her. >> when this first happened, what do you think went through mitt romney's head? he simply said that wasn't appropriate or words i would have used or something like that. but he didn't say that was absurd, offensive, ridiculous. >> i'll tell you what goes through most candidates' heads. i don't think anybody is out there running for president trying to be the leader of the free world based on arguments that take place on talk radio. and talk radio controversies. i think most people that run for president are running because they want to care care of very big things. they want to talk about the economy, they want to talk about national security -- >> kevin, you're right, but the problem -- >> because they're focused on those issues, because they're looking at reasons why they can talk about the big issues that are affecting people in their daily lives, that's why they run for president. i think getting drawn into a lot of the cable talk is not one of those things that becomes a priority. >> but kevin -- >> the reality is of course that talk radio has been determining the talking points for far too many folks running for president and office in recent years. that is a real problem of the party and the role of a real leader is to stand up and say stop, enough. that's too extreme. to police their own. >> i think -- >> when bill clinton -- >> you two, if you look at it -- >> hold on, guys. >> the problem was that governor romney did actually do it -- >> what happened was -- >> let john finish. >> but as bill clinton did with sister, this has a negative dynamic for the republican party, it alienates women. independent women. not just from talk radio, but from the conservative cause. that's the reason this resonates deeper, not just talk radio. >> i think that's right and i think there's a lot of other issues where candidates can go out and address the real big concerns women have. whether it's education, health care, the overall economy rather than having it all compartmentalized into one incident that has to do with a radio talk show host. i think this was a discussion that a lot of people had in the country. took up a lot of space on cable news. when your question is how did the candidates handle this, that's what i'm trying to talk about. candidates have to go out and talk about what they believe are the big issues. the bigger issues that are driving the american electorate's decision when they're choosing a president. >> gentlemen, thanks very much to all three. we simply hit pause. now to california where an l.a. county doctor has been arrested for murder after three of her patients died from prescription drug overdoses. the allegation was that three otherwise healthy men all in their 20s were murdered by a deadly cocktail of prescription drugs. lisa sing was arrested last week after a lengthy undercover investigation into a case of a doctor churning out pill prescriptions by the thousands. investigators say she wrote as many as 27,000 prescriptions in three years. that's 25 prescriptions a day, 365 days a year. it seems to be an extraordinary amount of prescription drugs moving out of a strip mall near a busy california freeway. perhaps even more extraordinary, the murder charge itself. that has never happened in california and is rare nationwide. >> as you know, we have prosecuted cases charging involuntary manslaughter, most recently, conrad murray in the michael jackson case, but this was a little different. this involves multiple victims and a large amount of undercover work by both the dea and state medical board. >> the sting operation went on for years. our miguel marquez is working the story for us. obviously, usually in l.a., but wonderful to have you here tonight. how exactly was she doing this? >> it was so unbelievably simple. you'd walk into her office with a back problem. the simplest of symptoms. you'd tell her about it. and she would prescribe anything you wanted, anything she could prescribe, at several different pharmacies, to sort of cover her tracks. i pulled some of the names. everything from oxycontin, xanax, hydromorphone, morphine, the list goes on and on. it was everywhere, incredible. >> it was very clear that people who had problems or addictions would go to her and she knew exactly what she was doing? >> they were coming not only from southern california but other parts of the country. some from arizona. lots and lots from southern california. >> 27,000 prescriptions other than three years. is the alleged amount. how much money would she have made from that? she made millions. there was one indication in the charging documents that she charged $110 per visit, if you look at that over the number of prescriptions she made. there was also indication she and her husband paid $5 million cash for an office building two years ago. that gives you an idea of how much money she was making. >> wow, this was obviously -- we were talking about this has not happened before. conrad murray was charged with involuntary manslaughter. she's charged with three counts of second degree murder. are they considering other charges? >> they are indeed. there are two other cases being investigated by investigators right now. it is possible there are more out there. there was some reporting done a couple of years ago on her and there are as many as six to perhaps eight people directly or indirectly related to prescriptions she made. >> why did it take them so long to find this? it seems in this day and age if all these people are flocking to one person who would give you drugs, there would be a very blatant trail, on facebook, social media. >> a variety of reasons. the people seeking the drugs for the most part wanted them and weren't out there advertising the fact they were looking for these drugs. also, she was very smart. she would make the prescriptions and smartest thing she did was to make the prescriptions at different pharmacies. you'd go in, she'd give you three different drugs from three different pharmacies. it was then very difficult for them to track and to see that this was happening. >> perfect. miguel, thank you very much. appreciate it. good to see you here in person. >> good to be here. are nfl coaches paying players to purposely injure star players? 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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about, where we focus on our reporting, do the work and find the "outfront 5." first tonight, president obama and benjamin netanyahu going to great lengths today to look and sound like they're on the same page when it comes to dealing with iran's nuclear threat. today, handshakes, photo ops and a two-hour meeting and working lunch. was the united states able to keep israel from taking military action against iran? former director of the national security agency tells "outfront" the talks in d.c. make an attack look less likely in the next few months, but today's discussions bought us a little time. nothing more. two, china says it's increasing military spending by 11%. and that's just what they're formally saying. an expert on china's military tells "outfront" says the spending is likely going towards missile systems. specifically towards the anti-shift missile system. experts say it will be a game changer that will have profound consequences. the increase comes as the u.s. proposes slashing spending. note, america will be increasing its spending in the pacific. three, eric holder publicly defended the killing of suspected terrorists even if they're u.s. citizens, on foreign soil. in a speech this evening holder said the president has the authority to order such killings through a 2001 congressional authorization which approved any force necessary against al qaeda or associated groups. he also addressed critics. >> some have argued that the president is required to get permission from a federal court before taking action against a united states citizen who is a senior operational leader of al qaeda or associated forces. this is simply not accurate. due process and judicial process are not one and the same. particularly when it comes to national security. the constitution guarantees due process. it does not guarantee judicial process. >> the human rights watch is among groups criticizing the so-called target killing and the notion that the entire world is a battlefield. number four, india has banned exports of cotton. this caused cotton prices in the united states to go up 4.5% today, which is the largest move allowed on a single day. india put the ban in place immediately because they're worried about a supply crunch. if you remember it was a year ago cotton prices hit an all-time high due to supply concerns. the usda predicted a decline in cotton use. after last year's price shock several suppliers started to turn to alternative fibers. it's been 214 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. stocks fell today because for our country to grow we need china to grow and china cut its growth forecast to 7.5%. that sounds like a lot but it's really not. for years, nfl players have earned big money making big hits. but a recent nfl investigation shows that a few players and coaches have taken it to a whole new level. former new orleans saints defensive coordinator greg williams was questioned today about his 2009 super bowl champion saints. according to the investigation, the nfl says his defense awarded catch payments to players who delivered excessive hits. and here's how it went. $1,500 for a knockout. $1,000 for a cart-off. meaning the player had to be carried off the field. kurt warner, brett favre, were just two players believed to have been targeted. but up to 27 players may be involved in placing bounties on opposing teams. some people say though this whole "paying for performance" could be a lot more widespread than that. one of them is coy wire. he layed for greg williams on the buffalo bill in this 2002 and he's "outfront" tonight. appreciate you taking the time to be with us. did this happen at the buffalo bills? >> in buffalo, we had a culture of relentlessness. you know. we wanted a competitive edge over our components. and, you know, we crossed the line. we went a little too far when we took pay for play to a level where it shouldn't have gone. pay for play is harmless when you're talking about interceptions, touchdowns or causing fumbles. but when you're rewarding players financially with money, you know, you don't want to reward players for injuring another player. that's when the line is crossed. >> so were these amounts about what people were betting at buffalo in terms of $1,500 for a knockout, $1,000 more for a cart-off, if a player was incapacitated and had to be wheeled off the field? >> i'm going to speak for my own experience. it was never a set amount, a set dollar amount. there was never a method to this system is what some people are labeling it. >> how did it work? how were the amounts determined? in buffalo? is it just a group of people who got together, threw money in a pool, depending how much was there, that's how it was based that particular game? how did it work? >> that's right. there was no system in place. it was just a week to week thing. it was a group of people who came together and said i'll put in this much money for an interception or a forced fumble. you know, the problem is when it escalated into a state where you're paying to injure another player. and now what we know with injuries, concussions, the long-term effects of playing the game of football, we know it can't escalate to that level. now we're crossing the line. >> dave duerson's son was on this show recently talking about how he thought his father had committed suicide because of the brain injuries he sustained while playing for teams including the chicago bears. do you think that it motivated players to hit harder? that these sorts of -- not just the amount of money. because maybe to some highly paid football players the amount of money wasn't huge. but just the whole fact that it was there. betting on who could hit someone harder. who could knock somebody out. did it motivate people to be meaner? >> i think what this is is a classic case of group think. it's a term in psychology used to describe how a group of people will, you know, fully functioning, sensible people, will do bad, irrational things when they're in a group setting. they get carried away. greg williams had a great quote. he said, instead of getting caught up in it, i should have stopped it. all those who got involved should have stood and up said, this isn't right. why are we condoning injuring another player? there are a reason why rules like unnecessary roughness, unsports man like conduct, exist in the nfl. roger goodell and the players association have come together over the past months to make sure we don't have certain types of hits anymore. that we protect our players, cut back training camp. and the days that contact can be allowed in practice. so this is yet another example of something that has existed in the nfl and we know we cannot accept it any longer. or we're condoning it. >> do you think for the sport of football to be safe and not something where people can get serious damage, i know you've been injured. can you have the sport of football the way americans like to watch it and not have those risks? that's the real question for all of us, isn't it? >> great question. there's wrong with playing this game aggressively. hit people. hit them hard. legally. just don't condone it by rewarding them financially if someone gets hurt. people are going to get hurt. this is football. we can have a competitive, exciting game for fans. a violent game, even. but we can do it with integrity, respect for players, and good, old-fashioned sportsmanship. >> so you think it can be violent and city have integrity. >> absolutely. this is a violent game. big hits are encouraged. that's what makes this america's sport. it's a wonderful game. it's a violent game. we just don't need to reward players for injuring another person. >> all right, coy. thank you very much. appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you, erin. senator john mccain calls for air strikes in syria today. is that the right call? and a break in the case of michigan's mercedes murder. could the victim's husband be the next one taken into custody? 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to ireland where the 900-year-old heart of dublin's patron saint has stolen from christchurch cathedral this weekend. the preserved heart had been on display inside the cathedral since the 13th century. erin mcloughlin following the story. i asked how this happened and if police ever expect to recover the missing heart. >> there was no visible signs of a break-in at either the cathedral or the chapel. however, that steel cage that had encased the heart was wrenched open and the box that contained the relic and of course the relic itself was stolen. now, police are scouring hours of cctv footage taken from the entrance of the cathedral to try and find who was behind this. and it has cathedral officials scratching their heads because they say that the heart had very little economic value, but it was of huge symbolic importance to members of the clergy. now, this isn't the first time that something like this has happened in ireland. earlier this year in january, a relic of st. brigid was taken from a church in dublin. erin? developments in the grosse pointe murder case. handyman joseph gans has been charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. you may recall the story here. jane is a marketing executive, mother of two, found strangled in the back seat of her mercedes about one month ago. 48-year-old gans reportedly has the iq. a third grader, has claimed the victim's husband promised him $2,000 and a used cadillac to carry out a hit. the husband of the victim here denies any involvement. this story's had a lot of back and forth. obviously the handyman had abused the husband, then taken it back, then accused again. it turned it subsequently the husband had affairs, a rather strange personal life. gans has now been charged with conspiracy to commit murder. does that mean there needs to be someone else that you conspired with or no? >> yes, that's the most interesting development i think. not just first degree murder but conspiracy. conspiracy means that there are two or more people involved in the crime. so the question is who's person number two? gans' original story was that bashara was his co-conspirator, he said bashara committed the murder. it's interesting they've handed down a conspiracy indictment here. >> how relevant is this iq issue? >> it could be relevant. his iq i understand is about 65. which puts him, you know, well below average. if they're going to be relying on a confession from somebody with an extremely low iq, it's going to have a bearing on whether the jury will think it's reliable or not. remember, gans has changed his story two or three times. >> that's right. >> and if you're depending upon his confession to try to implicate bashara, you have a problematic case. >> but if they thought bashraa did it at this point wouldn't they have already taken it into custody? isn't this a sign their case against him is weak this. >> great question but with a conspiracy indictment the answer is no. that's because you have to corroborate the conspirator's story. so you can go into a police station and say, i killed somebody with, acting in concert with somebody else. your confession can't be used unless there's independent corroboration and the police don't seem to have that at this point. they have good motive and stuff but we haven't heard anything about hair, dna, blood evidence that would link him to the crime. >> we'll see what happens in the next few days. thank you. in the last ten years there have been 8,000 cases of men using acid to punish and disfigure women. the woman who won an academy award for her documentary about this disturbing trend in pakistan comes "outfront" tonight. our neighbor to the north -- we're watching you, canada -- makes a play to become a super power. an imperial play. there are a number of reasons why canada is sniffing around. like active head restraints, brake assist, and an enhanced accident-response system standard in every chrysler 200. no one would know if we didn't. but we would have. and for us, the things you do when no one is looking are the things that define you. ♪ montgomery and abigail higgins had... ...a tree that bore the most rare and magical fruit. which provided for their every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. but with their raymond james financial advisor, they had prepared for even the unthinkable. and they danced. see what a raymond james advisor can do for you. if you have painful, swollen joints, i've been in your shoes. one day i'm on top of the world... the next i'm saying... i have this thing called psoriatic arthritis. i had some intense pain. it progressively got worse. my rheumatologist told me about enbrel. i'm surprised how quickly my symptoms have been managed. 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[ male announcer ] we are insurance. ♪ we are farmers ♪ bum, ba-da-bum, bum, bum, bum ♪ tonight, the use of acid to punish women for doing things like asking for a divorce or turning down a wedding proposal. in the last decade alone there have been more than 8,000 reported acid attacks in pakistan. it's an atrocity that's gone unpunished until now. 33-year-old pakistani filmmaker won an academy award for documentary about victims of acid attacks inspired the legislature to act. an acid attack, now considered a crime which can carry up to life in prison. charmin came "outfront" today and i want to warn you some of these pictures are very hard to watch. >> i mean, it's just -- it's just horrific and it's -- i mean, it's barbaric. why does it happen? >> you know, it happens specifically in one area of pakistan and it's a culmination of very many things. it has the lowest level of literacy and highest levels of poverty. acid is widely available because it's used for cleaning cotton. you need need a license to buy it. no one can trace it back to you. to kill a woman, you need a gun but to maim her face, you just need a chemical. that's so widely available. and there is a mind-set in that area that violence against women is okay because for years no one's been prosecuted for it. >> and i know that's part of your goal, right? for that to change. i mean, we have met some women in jail in pakistan and it seemed at the very least their frustration was their cases never went to trial, no one seemed to listen to their side of the story. >> absolutely. the onus is on the educated pakistani women to give back and to help the uneducated women and that's the central thesis of this film. if people watch it, they'll realize there are strong female characters in the film. a strong lawyer. strong female parliamentarians that take up the fight and become the voice for these uneducated women. >> there are some in pakistan frustrated at you saying, well, you're adding to the people in the west, they hear pakistan and they think bad things and they think dangerous things and they say you're adding to that. what do you say to them? >> my response to that is we need to talk about our problems. we cannot afford to sweep them under the carpet. most importantly, you seldom hear of problems in pakistan that have solutions. acid violence has a solution. the parliament in pakistan passed a bill against it. there are people fighting against it so what the film shows is pakistanis want they can solve their own problems so i look at as it as a film with hope as well as despair. >> and what is the right punishment? i know you said something before that stuck with me which was, if you want to kill a woman, you get a gun but a gun is hard to get. if you want to maim her, ruin her life and her livelihood, you throw acid in her face. isn't it essentially the same as killing someone? should it carry the same punishment? how have you gotten your head around the right punishment? >> i think it's worse than killing someone. when you kill somebody, their life ends. when you throw acid on their face they're forever scarred. each time they look in the mirror, they remember of that time. most women don't leave their home after this happens because there's so much shame associated with it. somehow society made them believe it's their fault this that is happened. for me, this is like the living dead. >> and of course, an amazing documentary. worth seeing. canada offers up its oil for a couple of pandas, apparently. a number of other looney things our northern neighbor is doing tonight. to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting, initiate, bill, and track work in real time. you can't live under a dome in minnesota, that's why there's guys like me. 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