those two cases were on the 30th and sist those two cases were on the 30th and 31st of january and there would almost certainly be more. the central point according to these minutes is that government had a plan to deal with illness. yes. you didn't in fact, _ plan to deal with illness. 133 you didn't in fact, within the department of health and social care, commission until the 10th of february the plan, the battle plan as you describe in your statement, or the action plan as it was published on the 3rd of march. and therefore, what plan was it that you were referring to cabinet colleagues too, to deal with the illness? firstly, we had the pandemic flu strategy set out in 2011, but by this point we had a whole series of different plans for expanding different plans for expanding different areas. so we had a plan for the expansion of testing within the hd. that plan didn't go fast enough and i had to take serious action to change that in the middle of march. we had a plan for the development of a vaccine and we had already put extra funds into the development of a vaccine by this point. we had a whole series of plans. the number of questions you said there was an absence of a plan, thatis said there was an absence of a plan, that is not true. there was a plan. in fact, there was a plan with detail and a whole different series of areas. my critique of the plan is that it was not an adequate plan in doctrine or a level of detail and it is absolutely incumbent on this inquiry to get to the substance of what the future plan should be, and it is that substance that really matters. so we had a plan, it was guided by the science. by this point, i was much more worried that on the 23rd ofjanuary, and really it was over the last week of january that my worry level is changed categorically, because we saw the worst case scenario and i remember that meeting very vividly, that was at the end of january. you also notice here that i said in a reasonable worst case scenario we will see almost every government department affected, that was an understatement, i shouldn't have said almost, that colleagues should attend personally or designate a junior minister who was dedicated to this task. dedicated. so this is clearly me saying to the rest of my cabinet colleagues, we're all going to have to get stuck in on this. and yes, we did have a plan. it is entirely reasonable for me to both explain that we had a plan, indeed plans in place, but also critique for the future where those plans were flawed. for the future where those plans were flawed-— for the future where those plans were flawed. , ., ., were flawed. one further question on this to - ic, were flawed. one further question on this topic, please. _ were flawed. one further question on this topic, please. on _ were flawed. one further question on this topic, please. on the _ were flawed. one further question on this topic, please. on the 14th - were flawed. one further question on this topic, please. on the 14th of- this topic, please. on the 14th of february 2020, a week or so later, we needn't to put the document up, but page seven of the cabinet minutes, orthe but page seven of the cabinet minutes, or the note in the meeting, again your cabinet colleagues are told that government had a plan informed by science. helen mcnamara has given evidence to the effect through a witness statement that time and time again, cabinet was assured that there were plans in place. you have described the vaccine preparation work, what was done and we will come to the detail in due course, what was done by way of testing. so that we can clearly understand your response. are you saying that there was throughout february already in place a plan for countermeasures, that is to say infection control measures, the sorts of measures which were ultimately put into place on the 12th of march, the 16th of march, the 20th of march and the 23rd of march? i’m the 20th of march and the 23rd of march? �* ,., ,., , the 20th of march and the 23rd of march? �* , �* , march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in _ march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in place _ march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in place on _ march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in place on the - march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in place on the 12th - march? i'm so sorry, we didn't put measures in place on the 12th of. measures in place on the 12th of march. 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question? whether, i the original plan. could you please answer the question? whether, asj the original plan. could you please i answer the question? whether, as far as you understood, and the advice of your advisors and colleagues, plans for countermeasures, for infection—control measures in existence, and informed to the cabinet in february 2020? there was a [an as cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set — cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set out _ cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set out and _ cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set out and based - cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set out and based on i cabinet in february 2020? there was a plan as set out and based on the i a plan as set out and based on the 2011 pandemic flu plan, updated with the conclusions of cygnus, and in module one we discussed at length the flaws in that plan. the argument that wasn't a plan is false. indeed, i've heard a number of cabinet office figures argue there wasn't a plan. if you look at the 28th of february, submission to the prime minister by cc yes, it sets out that we had very advanced plans, in fact it is much too bullish and self—confidence. —— my self confident, that note, and the idea it was wrong to suggest we had a plan is completely false. i appreciate that some people in the cabinet office did then later catch up cabinet office did then later catch up with the seriousness of the situation and become rather alarmed. i think their reaction when they finally woke up, in some cases was helpful because the machine ground into action. in some cases it was not particularly helpful because it would have been better if they had said, we now realise there is a problem, what have you been doing about it? as opposed to the toxic blame culture that we've seen and referred to already.— referred to already. coming to a completely _ referred to already. coming to a completely different _ referred to already. coming to a completely different subject, i referred to already. coming to a i completely different subject, which are likely to travel on? i completely different sub'ect, which are likely to travel on?i are likely to travel on? i shall return at _ are likely to travel on? i shall return at 20 _ are likely to travel on? i shall return at 20 past. _ they cover macro inquiry taking a short break. let's take this opportunity to recap some of what we've heard. the former health secretary there are reflected in the beginning of the pandemic, he denied there was an absence of a plan ahead of the outbreak, and even if they had been perfect, his department would still have strengthened its operation. he's also denied that his department lacked a grip at the start of the pandemic, saying a toxic culture at the centre of government meant there was a lack of empathy, and that is a phrase we heard numerous times, a toxic culture. mr hancock continues to defend the department of health, arguing it was doing things that no—one else was and he argued he tried from the middle ofjanuary to wake up whitehall to the scale of the problem that officials had to get on with preparations such as the shielding programme for the vulnerable. he claims he wasn't taken seriously into the middle of february. he said the department faced deep unpleasantness from the centre of government during the early months of the pandemic. well of course be back with the covid inquiry as it presumes to hear more from matt hancock shorter. but let's take a look at the rest of the day as �*s news. israel and hamas have agreed to extend the temporary truce in gaza, just minutes before it was due to expire. the pause in hostilities has seen a number of hostages and prisoners released on both sides over the past six days. well, this news comes as there has been a shooting incident injerusalem with israeli media reporting at least three people have been killed. israel's national security minister itamar ben—gvir blamed hamas, saying — and i quote — that it "speaks here with two voices, one voice of a so—called cease—fire and a second voice of terror." israeli police say the two attackers were killed on the spot. the assailants are also reported to have opened fire at a bus stop during rush at one of the entrances to the city. well on wednesday — the sixth day of the deal — 16 hostages were freed from captivity in gaza. they included two russians, ten israeli citizens and four thai hostages, who were all handed over to the red cross. their release was delayed by what hamas, who are designated a terrorist organisation by many western countries, called logistical issues. in exchange for the hostages, 30 palestinian women and teenage boys were freed from israeli prisons, bringing the total number of palestian captives freed since friday to 210. here's our middle east correspondent, hugo bachega who went to the scene of the shooting. in return 30 palestinians were released from israeli jails. the latest swap was overshadowed by a claim by hamas that the youngest hostage, a ten—month—old baby, his brother and mother had been killed by an israeli air strike in gaza. israel says it's a cruel claim and that it's investigating. theirfather, yarden, is still missing. israel's war cabinet gathered late last night. us secretary of state antony blinken arrived in tel aviv for the third time since the war started, to discuss an extension to the truce and more aid to gaza. in the occupied west bank, violence continued. an eight—year—old boy and a teenager, aged 1a, were shot dead as the israeli army withdrew from a military operation in a refugee camp. the army said it used missiles, grenades and explosives, killing a senior commander for islamichhad. in gaza, the humanitarian crisis continues. the un says more aid needs to get in and that disease is a real threat. the ceasefire continues for another day, but palestinians wonder how long it will last. a group of thai hostages, freed after their abduction last month by hamas, have flown back to bangkok. this was the moment the group were first pictured after touching down. relatives gathered at the airport to greet them. some had thought their loved ones were dead and only found out they were alive when they saw pictures showing their release. shortly after their arrival, some of them spoke to the press. in total, 17 hostages were flown home — six more are undergoing medical checks in israel. others are still being held by hamas. the group were working on israeli farms near gaza when they were abducted. world leaders are preparing to meet at a un summit in dubai to discuss climate change. co p28 follows a year of extreme weather events in which many climate records have been broken. the decision to hold the 28th annual un meeting in the united arab emirates has been controversial. it's one of the world's largest exporters of oil and gas. the cop28 president said the world had reached a crossroads. the uae is deeply proud and humbled to be hosting cop28 at a pivotal time in this critical decade for climate action. we now, as you know, the gravity of this moment. we feel as you feel the urgency of this work. and we see, as you see, that the world has reached a crossroads. and yes, since paris, we have made some progress. but we also know that the road we have been on will not get us to our destination in time. the science has spoken. it has been loud and clear. it has confirmed that the moment is now to find a new road. a road wide enough for all of us. three of the obstacles in the detours of the past. —— free of the obstacles. that new road starts with the decision on the global stock—take. a decision that is ambitious, corrects course and accelerates action to 2030. through the global stock—take, we have a chance to unite the three core elements of the climate agenda. adaptation, means of implementation which includes finance under one umbrella. united around high ambition. giving clear direction on nationally determined contributions and connecting everything we agree here to practical action in the real world. every nation, every sector and every one of us has an urgent and every one of us has an urgent and immediate role to play. let me brina ou and immediate role to play. let me bring you some _ and immediate role to play. let me bring you some breaking _ and immediate role to play. let me bring you some breaking news. i bring you some breaking news. workers in the rmt union have voted to accept a deal in their long—running dispute over pay, jobs and working conditions. the proposals for 1h companies representatives means workers will receive in effect what is an unconditional backdated pay rise of 5% for last year, more for the lowest paid and job security guarantees for a bit means the end of the rmt�*s existing national strike, and in the prospect of strikes until at least the spring, so to recap, workers in the rmt have voted to accept a deal in that very long—running dispute over pay, jobs and working conditions. let's bring you a few other stories making the news today. uk's la stopporth us, is due to close today. it is so luckily the company who runs the site near merthyr tydfil could walk away without cleaning it up. it is roughly the size of 400 football pitches. the site operator says it is in dialogue with the council. metro bank will review whether to stay open seven days a week as it also revealed plans to cut 20% of its workers, more than 850 staff will lose theirjobs. the lender said the measures are part of a strategy to save around £50 million a year. a study has confirmed a drug which stops hiv infecting the body has proved to be highly effective real—world preventative treatment. research —— results of the research have been described as reassuring. hiv charity the terrence higgins trust once easier access to drugs since many people including women do not it exists. the company which makes more than half the uk's disposable vapes is axing a number of sweet and desert flavours which have been criticised for appealing to children. elfbar alsojoined calls for tougher restrictions on bake sales ahead of a government consultation on new regulations for the industry. actor dean sullivan has died at the age of 68. he was known for playing jimmy corkill the channel 4 soap brookside between 1986 and 2003. the actor had been diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2018. for the last 12 years edinburgh zoo has been home to the only giant pandas in the uk — but if you're thinking of paying them a vistit, time is running out fast. today's the final day people will get to see tian tian and yang guang before their encloure is shut off and they prepare for their journey back home to china. our scotland correspondent lorna gordon has more. the royal zoological society paid an annual fee of $1 million, the royal zoological society paid an annualfee of $1 million, about £790,000, the china for the bears. let's get back to the covid inquiry now and our correspondent ellie price is there for us. we heard a great deal this morning which seemed to cover a lot of ground. what was your initial response to the way that matt hancock dealt with some of those questions? we that matt hancock dealt with some of those questions?— that matt hancock dealt with some of those questions? we talked about his tone earlier and _ those questions? we talked about his tone earlier and needless _ those questions? we talked about his tone earlier and needless to - those questions? we talked about his tone earlier and needless to say i those questions? we talked about his tone earlier and needless to say he i tone earlier and needless to say he was indeed pretty defensive about his record. i think the volley of criticism he has faced over the past few weeks will tell you he was quite keen to clear his name. he was talking about the earlier part of the pandemic and basically said he felt his department knew what was going on, had a grasp on it but it was difficult to wake up whitehall and essentially he warned the rest of government that something needed to be done and he said that was always his intention at that time, in the early part of the pandemic, and that he had this difficulty can be listened to, basically. he said part of that was this reluctance to believe that things were going to be quite so bad in this sort of feeling that there was, nobody wanted to overreact. but he also talked about this toxic culture at the centre of government where he said in effect, this was a problem later on, that any mistakes that were made were deemed to have been done intentionally. but he said that this was, this culture made things difficult to be listened to, and basically that's why he was put off by the centre of government. so some criticism being volleyed back. centre of government probably means borisjohnson and his aides. i think boris johnson and his aides. i think we must have _ boris johnson and his aides. i think we must have heard _ boris johnson and his aides. i think we must have heard that _ boris johnson and his aides. i think we must have heard that five i boris johnson and his aides. i think we must have heard that five or i boris johnson and his aides. i thinkj we must have heard that five or six times, seemed like something he was very keen to mention.— very keen to mention. absolute faster as you — very keen to mention. absolute faster as you say, _ very keen to mention. absolute faster as you say, it _ very keen to mention. absolute faster as you say, it has i very keen to mention. absolute faster as you say, it has come l very keen to mention. absolute. faster as you say, it has come up week after week here, what exactly was going on in something the inquiry wants to get to the bottom of, how it worked, because you had these personalities that may or may not have worked very well together, the inquiry is less interested in the inquiry is less interested in the standout who said what, but more interested in how that played into the structure of government and how decisions were being made and if lessons can be learned. you can't necessarily legislate for the personalities but you can for how the system works. i think we will hear more about that this afternoon. and from matt hancock, he has been seen as a bit of a bogeyman figure for all of this, and i think he will be keen to try and make sure he's not seen as a scapegoat out of it. his name isn't great and the conservative party, he's no longer a party member of course, so this is his time to reflect on all of that and he says there was indeed this toxic culture right at the centre of government. we toxic culture right at the centre of government-— government. we had a lot of reflection — government. we had a lot of reflection on _ government. we had a lot of reflection on the _ government. we had a lot of reflection on the beginning l government. we had a lot of| reflection on the beginning of government. we had a lot of- reflection on the beginning of the pandemic, that there was an absence of a plan, he was keen to say there was a plan. of a plan, he was keen to say there was a plan-— was a plan. yes, and we heard that in earlier parts _ was a plan. yes, and we heard that in earlier parts of— was a plan. yes, and we heard that in earlier parts of the _ was a plan. yes, and we heard that in earlier parts of the inquiry, i in earlier parts of the inquiry, that basically the uk had a plan, but it was essentially based on a plan for a flu pandemic which obviously was not terribly hopeful because we didn't get hit by flu, it was a coronavirus that behaved in a different way. but he did say, it wasn't like we were going in cold, there were lessons or indeed plans in effect that could be adhered to, but clearly, quite quickly they became less useful because this virus reacted and behaved in a different way to how a pandemic flu would go. so i think, and as i say there has been talk about this in there has been talk about this in the earlier part of the inquiry but certainly keen to say we didn't go into it blind. he certainly keen to say we didn't go into it blind.— into it blind. he also tried to an ue into it blind. he also tried to argue that — into it blind. he also tried to argue that from _ into it blind. he also tried to argue that from the - into it blind. he also tried to argue that from the middle l into it blind. he also tried to l argue that from the middle of january, he tried to wake up whitehall to the scale of the problem, and he claims he wasn't actually taken seriously until the middle of february. 1140. actually taken seriously until the middle of february.— actually taken seriously until the middle of february. no, and again we have been hearing _ middle of february. no, and again we have been hearing lots _ middle of february. no, and again we have been hearing lots about - middle of february. no, and again we have been hearing lots about that i have been hearing lots about that over the last few weeks about who said what and when and obviously so much of this is based on hindsight, but his point was, i was aware at the time something needed to be done. ., ., ., done. ok, we will have to leave it there. done. ok, we will have to leave it there- we — done. ok, we will have to leave it there. we will _ done. ok, we will have to leave it there. we will of _ done. ok, we will have to leave it there. we will of course _ done. ok, we will have to leave it there. we will of course be i done. ok, we will have to leave it there. we will of course be back. done. ok, we will have to leave it| there. we will of course be back to you shortly when that covid inquiry resumes. but let's bring you more now on the news from the rmt, who are ending their rail dispute. we have that workers in the rmt voted to accept a deal in the long—running dispute. with more on this i'm joined by our correspondent katy austen. what more can you tell us? this is a significant moment in the very long—running dispute that the rmt union has had with these 14 train companies nearly a year and a half since the long series of strikes began and what's happened todayis strikes began and what's happened today is that workers at those 14 train companies have accepted a deal that means they will get a backdated pay rise for last year, so 2022 to 23, 5% and somejob pay rise for last year, so 2022 to 23, 5% and some job security guarantees, for passengers it also means that the threat of a strikes by rmt workers is lifted for at least the next six months, i think. it doesn't completely resolve everything in the dispute, that backdated pay rise is in effect unconditionalfor backdated pay rise is in effect unconditional for that one year, but some key issues remain to be resolved next year if the second year's pay rise can be agreed because of the heart of this dispute has been changes to ways of working that the industry and the government say are needed, they say industry is financially unsustainable as some of those have been really contentious, with the rmt union. so they have agreed to something that means workers well i think get more pay in their pockets before christmas and it does mean some relief for passengers on the rmt strike side of things, but it does leave some thorny issues to be resolved at some point next year, and also it doesn't actually end strikes completely because there is another union as life, which represents train drivers, and their dispute is ongoing, it's quite bitter, has really moved, they actually start a fresh wave of industrial action tomorrow. fresh wave of industrial action tomorrow-— fresh wave of industrial action tomorrow. . ,, ., tomorrow. what is your assessment of what damage — tomorrow. what is your assessment of what damage this _ tomorrow. what is your assessment of what damage this has _ tomorrow. what is your assessment of what damage this has potentially i what damage this has potentially done to the rail network? we will people watching today have had to make other plans rather than using the train because they can't rely on the train because they can't rely on the service at the moment with strikes. do you think these continued strikes have had an impact on our rail network? you continued strikes have had an impact on our rail network?— on our rail network? you will stru: ale on our rail network? you will struggle to _ on our rail network? you will struggle to find _ on our rail network? you will struggle to find anybody, i on our rail network? you will- struggle to find anybody, whether it is the union or the government, the industry who doesn't think this has gone on for too long, everyone thinks it has been quite damaging to perceptions of rail travel. workers of eastleigh lost money when they went on strike, passengers have been inconvenienced, the hospitality is one that says it really suffers when strike action happens. so it has clearly been damaging, perhaps not as big an impact as it might have had in the past on passengers because a lot of people can work from home now on strike days, but it does mean a lot of revenue for the industry and as i say that perception of rail travel will take some time to repair.— perception of rail travel will take some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you- — some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you- let's _ some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you. let's head _ some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you. let's head back - some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you. let's head back to i some time to repair. katy, for now, thank you. let's head back to the i thank you. let's head back to the covid inquiry, is matt hancock is continuing to speak. abs, covid inquiry, is matt hancock is continuing to speak.— continuing to speak. a series of whatsa - continuing to speak. a series of whatsapp messages _ continuing to speak. a series of whatsapp messages on i continuing to speak. a series of 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before, or the day before. so your every — two days before, or the day before. so your every regret _ two days before, or the day before. so your every regret appears - two days before, or the day before. so your every regret appears to i two days before, or the day before. so your every regret appears to bel so your every regret appears to be that you — so your every regret appears to be that you were — so your every regret appears to be that you were told _ so your every regret appears to be that you were told and _ so your every regret appears to be that you were told and certainly. so your every regret appears to bei that you were told and certainly did not understand, _ that you were told and certainly did not understand, because _ that you were told and certainly did not understand, because you - that you were told and certainly did not understand, because you were i that you were told and certainly did i not understand, because you were not told, not understand, because you were 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