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We will break and have lunch. We will regather at 12 20. [indistinct conversations] dr. Hertzfeld so this one will not have as many sort of virtual folks. It is all in person. Soho karen has readily managed her risks by not having any virtual dispense on her panel. Not sure how she did that. It is all of this year. We talked about the task and experienced before, and this is more future looking and where are we going now . Karen com over to you. U. Karen thank you, scott, and actually, we are all holograms. No one is actually here. [laughter] i was not speaking into it. I was speaking into this volunteer im not sure why it is there. That is for cspan. [laughter] dr. Pace an advertisement for cspan, im watching their feet, the recording, it looks excellent. Whenever it is available, i urge you to take a look at that. That probably be the reporting of record for this event. Thanks. Karen ok. Welcome to panel 2. Well be talking about future strategies for Publicprivate Partnership. I thin

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