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for a long time. he uses maybe one part of his leadership. he was up one day then the other day, pushback on somebody else. kind of the classic divide and rule. i think prigozhin was a handy tool for him to put pressure on shrug you, maybe you blame shrug you or others for what was happening. but it is obviously gunning out of control. he thought he could control, now he can t. how does this and do you think? like i said, i think in the short term he will be able to squash this. but in the long term, dictators, it s when that shrink in the armor shows that things start to change. he has control moscow through fear for 20 years, just like in eastern me in other places. once they start to change, people become not afraid anymore. or they see the possibility of change, then things may spiral out of control for dictator. this is a really dangerous time for people. all right, thank you so much for your expertise. we appreciate the time. it is the most dramatic threat ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:21:00

For a better tomorrow, we re focused on making plastics better today. following breaking news coming out of russia, this video we ve been showing you, we now understand that a fire erupted in southern russia. this at a fuel depot after reports of an explosion there. firefighters are working to put out the blaze right now, it is happening in the city of verona. that is halfway between rostov-on-don and moscow. about six hours south. you can see that right there on the map. which, by the way, is one of the wagner group s stops in their march to moscow. we have reports that they ve also been in love pets. joining me now is democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois, co-chair of the congressional ukraine caucus. representative, thank you for being with us, you re a member of the house intelligence committee for several years. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:31:00

Just moments ago my colleague saying that he spoke to some of the people in ukraine and that this is a happy day for them. what are you hearing? hello richard, thank you so much for having me. well, let s make it clear, there are no good guys there. it is a group of russians that are in disagreement with another group of russians on what is the best way to kill us and destroy us here in ukraine. so, as it is a common saying right now in ukraine, we are cheering for both teams. but the truth is, the more weapons they destroy right now killing each other and fighting against each other, the more missiles, the more soldiers, the more tanks, the less would come to our territories and the less would be coming again, destroying ourselves. so we are watching closely of course and we are telling the world look. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:23:00

Real comments that they were fired upon by russian troops. they have all the motivation in the world to do exactly what they intend to do i guess as they approach moscow. but again, i think the reaction here when we talk about this is look, his comments are pretty important, the fact that he attacked putin in justification of this war. how will that affect the mindset of the everyday russian, not just the russian public. how will that distract their efforts there. will they have more people leave the conflict? i think that is part of the good news. he has control of the operational area in the south that was directing this war and finally look, he lost the wagner group as a fighting force against ukraine and now you ve got to bring russian troops back to fight them. the opportunities are there. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:11:00

We look at the strength of the wagner mercenary group, what is your thought on this? what are their capabilities now that they have actually shifted allegiances if you will admiral, in the conflict in the region. first and foremost, the wagner group is a cut above the conventional russian armed forces. principally because they tend to be contract soldiers who are well paid, have been a very successful in a number of campaigns all over africa. they were the victors of bakhmut s such as it was. so they are better fighting force i would say. man for man. as they run up this road against largely conscript armies. but, as they get closer to moscow, the more elite russian conventional forces that putin ....

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