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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:08:00

Wagner group have taken rostov-on-don, a town of 1 million people. they re moving more north towards moscow, very much unheated. that is a huge embarrassment for vladimir putin if he is even able to put down this uprising by the wagner group, which is a big possibility. he is got the weight of the army behind him. even if that all goes away at some point, this has been a disaster for him. this has shown an internal breakdown within the system so much so that the russian foreign ministry have released a statement saying that russian society has sharply rebuked these actions by the of ocular group, that the society remains free behind vladimir putin and this was designed to bring about a crack in society, to disrupt unity, to undermine the security of the country. they have warned western countries not to try to take advantage of this, not to get involved in what they call russia phobia. which is many ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:13:00

Things we have been discussing here peter is how far the wagner mercenary group might be from moscow right now. and the admiral saying, and what others have told us, the question is, will prigozhin be able to get potentially hear some russian troops to support him? will he get the hearts and minds of folks as he is moving north, as he is putting all these messages on social media to try to gain support for what he is saying. the elite has won this war, i do not trust shoigu who is the head of the military in russia. do they have the hearts and minds, does prigozhin have that ability? that s the real question. that is the history in russia. a force like the wagner group, as powerful as it is is obviously not capable of taking on the entire russian armed forces, if the armed forces remained loyal to putin. if they are really aiming to do something significant in moscow, they re going to have to pick up support, they re going to have to either hope that ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:26:00

I think what is most likely is he s able to put this down and for the meantime it is a precarious situation. how big of a deal, representative, is it that leader of the wagner group wants a putin ally, is now turning on him? will he be the only oligarchic that turns on vladimir putin? we hear you certainly get the impression that others in the security services have co-opted. i don t know how you find out what is taking place right now, who else might be. i guess what i ve learned in a situation like this is, things that were inconceivable, or inconceivable intel they are not. i don t know how anyone could ve predicted exactly how this was unfolding so far. how quickly it has unfolded. look, when we get brief notes, never with 100 percent certainty. we are told the situation to the extent that it is understood. we are giving degrees of ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:02:00

For people. all right, thank you so much for your expertise. we appreciate the time. it is the most dramatic threat so far as has been said a vladimir putin s power in decades, the wagner group troops marching towards moscow. the russian army rushing to defend that capital. the situation keeps unfolding hour by hour. we just ask a retired four star general if putin can defend himself. he said it all depends on the loyalty of his troops. the conversation with congressman mike, co-chair of the ukraine caucus in just a few minutes. the ukraine caucus in just a few minutes. good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york, welcome to alex witt reports. i m richard louis in for alex on this saturday. breaking news of course that we are following for you, developments out of russia at this hour as we ve been following all day. historic standoff underway right now and perhaps the biggest threat to vladimir putin s control of russia since he came into power two decades ago. this is a liv ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 17:24:00

But with great opportunities come great risk. again, i saw what he did. as we saw them blew up the dam in the south, you have to have great concern for what would happen in a nuclear power complex that was much bigger than chernobyl. so you re leading earlier to the what ifs and the concern about, if you have vladimir putin that is desperate, what will he do with the strategic nuclear arms, what we do with these weapons. and where are they today? you get these white papers that are like these scenarios that say this happens, this is what we do. where are you at in what we are seeing today based on an internal conflict. you have the wagner group pushing north and a rebellion as vladimir putin is saying right now, what is the thinking if you re talking to intelligence right now in the u.s. capital? i think what is happening with the intelligence community and the pentagon is exactly ....

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