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for a long time. he uses maybe one part of his leadership. he was up one day then the other day, pushback on somebody else. kind of the classic divide and rule. i think prigozhin was a handy tool for him to put pressure on shrug you, maybe you blame shrug you or others for what was happening. but it is obviously gunning out of control. he thought he could control, now he can t. how does this and do you think? like i said, i think in the short term he will be able to squash this. but in the long term, dictators, it s when that shrink in the armor shows that things start to change. he has control moscow through fear for 20 years, just like in eastern me in other places. once they start to change, people become not afraid anymore. or they see the possibility of change, then things may spiral out of control for dictator. this is a really dangerous time for people. all right, thank you so much for your expertise. we appreciate the time. it is the most dramatic threat so fa

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Transcripts For MSNBCW Alex 20240705

way towards the city. earlier today, that group seized control of military headquarters in a southern key russian city. they are now on a northern track towards the capital city of moscow. about halfway. this is also a view for you this morning, moscow s mayor, just moments ago, saying a counterterrorism operation declared in the city, in moscow. this is canceling the workday, it is asking people to stay home. obviously not a common situation or request. also new for you at 12 pm eastern in new york city, vladimir putin mobilizing troops in an address to the nation vowing to crush what he calls an armed rebellion. this rebellion led by the group s leader, yevgeny prigozhin. whose forces, up until the past couple of days, we re fighting alongside russia in ukraine. today, not that day. not that way. on friday, prove goshen accused the kremlin of invading ukraine on false pretenses. putin today vowing to punish anyone who takes up arms against a russian military. that s last 24

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:24:00

Terms of air raid sirens, and missiles in quite some time here in ukraine. at the same, time while all of this was happening in moscow, what s happening in rostov-on-don, the ukrainian leadership is known for their tweets. sometimes very sarcastic tweets. focused on russia, we ve heard some of those over the past few hours. we ve also heard from a spokesperson of the commander of the eastern forces in ukraine. he said look the effect of this is already having an impact on russian troops. because a lot of these troops on the frontline, they pay attention to prove goshen. they pay attention to the social media challenge where the wagner group is very active. they listen to his messages. and according to the spokesperson anyway, he said look, they are going to be watching all of this unfold as well. and it will have an impact on

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:49:00

Developments today we re talking about vladimir putin and prigozhin, and potentially a shift in his influence in leadership. how essential might that shifty to where what we ll see next happened in russia. because it is certainly a crack with prove goshen. absolutely. this is exactly what vladimir putin did not want to happen. you re right my wife, susan closs and i were on the ground in rush of the day that putin was first elected in 2000. he started his leadership with two main goals, the first was to re-consolidate power inside the country, in the kremlin. the second was to begin to assert power again on the international stage, especially what they call, the new year in broad, the former soviet states like ukraine. now this last 16 months has been an absolute collapse, calling in these last 24 hours of those two goals. he now no longer has exclusive control of the use of force on his own territory, and the war in ukraine has been disaster. i mean it just gets worse. ukrainians co

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Witt Reports 20240604 16:25:00

Morale. for those soldiers on the frontline. mark, as kelly was just saying, this ability to use the social platform that prigozhin is doing right now, how will that be essential as he tries to soft in the ground if you will, bring in more support. which he is trying to do as it moves north at the moment. how key is that, and quite unique if you will in terms of in realtime, him saying this is where we re going, this is what we re trying to do. we don t believe that the moment the head of the military there, has been doing a good job. that this has been done with the ideas of the elite. this is not for the people. at least that s what proof goshen is saying. get he s able to communicate, realtime, these ideas, as he is moving forward. how essential is that, and will that sway as we were talking to general breedlove a second ago a lot of the people that are saying out loud their support for putin, but may swing as

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