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Which was the four years before that, in the period where lot was changing and you have the first kind of old logo lifestyle brands. Well take it for granted now these were companies for the first time, were declaring their business w by was not to sell products but to sell ideas lifestyle, the sense of belonging they could extend into kind of selff enclosed branded cocoons. They could sell everything as long as it was granted with this logo. So nike was the first one to do this. They didnt ever owney the factories and the main thing that i learned when i was researching, no logo, there was a relationship between the aggressive kind of marketing that was constantly sort of trolling Youth Culture to find the most cutting edge ideas to get into places they never had before like schools to co brand with like Music Festivals and so on it was an inverse relationship between that a ....

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