would tackle something like isis. phil, you know, for the former guy to speak out in favor of the people who broke into the capitol. some of them violent attacking officers, isn t it a slap in the face to law enforcement? i think, all of the officers that i have spoken to who defended the capitol that day. to them, i mean, this is betrayal. it is. i mean, there s two levels of this and i m going to make you uncomfortable in a second. i mean, the first level as someone who worked in national security for democrats or republicans, republicans are typically the people who said we believe in law enforcement and national security. the president the former-president trump crossed swords with every military officer he dealt with. you saw the stories in the past couple days about general milley saying i m concerned about the transition here. in terms of law enforcement, the blue line, the president has said i respect the people who broke into trespassing the capitol. i don t respect the
phil was saying, that this is not normal politics, and this is not part of our sort of normal civic discourse in america. this is terrorism. and it s something that we need to deal with in the same way that we would tackle something like isis. phil, you know, for the former guy to speak out in favor of the people who broke into the capitol, some of them violently attacking officers, isn t it a slap in the face to law enforcement? i think of all of the officers i ve spoken to who defended the capitol that day. to them, i mean, this is betrayal. it is. i mean, there s two levels of this. i m going to make you uncomfortable in a second. the first level is someone who worked in national security for democrats, for republicans. republicans typically are the people who said, we believe in law enforcement and national security. the president, the former president, frump, crossed swords with every military officer he
fight. reza, thank you very much. more now on that chopper and how some lawmakers will see the body of bill bin laden. joining us is peter bergen and fran townsend, a member of the cia and department of homeland security s external advisory committee. fran, are you surprised pakistan might give this helicopter technology to china? no. once they had to blow it up and leave it behind, i think u.s. military intelligence officials not only assumed the pakistani government would try to reverse engineer it, but might share wit china. this is the same country of the nuclear scientist who proliferated that technology around the word. so this should not surprise anyone, frankly, that they re thinking about doing this. peter, isn t it a slap in the face to the u.s. and all the money the u.s. has poured into pakistan, in particular the pakistan military?
this is the same country of the nuclear scientist who proliferated that technology around the world. so this should not surprise anyone, frankly, that they re thinking about doing this. peter, isn t it a slap in the face to the u.s. and all the money the u.s. has poured into pakistan, in particular the pakistan military? reporter: well, you know, china is pakistan s closest ally. in fact, the prime minister just recently characterized the chinese as an all-weather friend, which is a thinly veiled reference to the pakistan s up and down relationship to the united states. china has built a major port on the indian ocean, and is a vital partner for pakistan because they share a common enemy, which is india. and in fact, the chinese helped the pakistanis with their nuclear program. so the history between these countries is very long, and i think it s a very reasonable assumption to the chinese, which
politico, and msnbc contributor megan mccain. thank you guys all for joining me. is it, in fact, a big win? considering the fact that mitt romney is from massachusetts, a neighboring state, and they have had an opportunity to look at him up close for many, many years, sit a slap in the face for him to see a neighboring paper totally dishim in this way. he has a home. sit not the first time. it happened in 2008. it helped megan s dad win the primary when the paper decided to throw its weight behind him in a crucial point. and not just endorsing another candidate but then devoting a huge amount of editorial space to trashing mitt romney every day. that is almost as important if