To investigate what happened in the past and apply its own laws. No one in the new team had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making Television Shows at the time. Iral i also said it is credible to me that he would have been influenced by financial or personal motives in carrying out duties as Vice President. A different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they could buy influence. That is at least plausible given ukraines reputation for corruption. The accusation that he acted independently did not seem credible to me. I connected mayor giuliani and the aide by text lantand later t i phone. They met in person on august 2, 2019. In conversations with me following that meeting which i did not attend, mr. Giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations into what happened in the past and mr. Yermoc stressed, he said it is their position to conduc
these investigations, what i understood us to be talking about was ukraine and corruption. well, we re talking about is burisma and the 2016 election. we can agree on that. when we talk about these investigations, isn t it clear that a public statement would be important to mr. giuliani because it was politically useful to the president? the way i saw it is that it would be helpful. right. it would be a way of being convincing to player giuliani and also to the president that this team and ukraine is serious about fighting corruption reform that they are different and if that would be helpful in getting a more positive attitude and the white house meetings scheduled, then that would be useful. and that would be helpful to get that white house meeting. correct. in fact, it was a necessary condition as you understood at that point. i wouldn t have called it a necessary condition. and, in fact, when it became clear later that we were not able to agree on an agreement that
juan: president trump s new attorney rudy giuliani is raising all kinds of questions after his latest media blitz. the former mayor, now saying that the president may not comply with a special counsel subpoena. we don t have to. he is the president of the united states. we can assert the same privileges other presidents have. president clinton negotiated a deal when he didn t negotiate the effectiveness juan: layer giuliani is unsure if the president will plead the fifth. are you confident the president will not take the fifth in this case? how can i be confident of that? what i when i am facing a situation with the president and all the other lawyers are. they think he would be a fool to testify. i have a client who wants to testify. juan: mr. trump s attorney not ruling out if michael cohen made payments to other women on