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right now we re watching the manhattan d.a. s office where we believe a grand jury will hear today from robert costello, a former legal adviser to michael cohen, and heightening the interest today, he s potentially the final act before a decision is made about whether to issue an indictment against donald trump. costello was called in at the request of trump s attorneys, leading many to believe his testimony will be aimed at undermining cohen s credibility. cohen himself is also there, he says, as a rebuttal witness. i want to bring in nbc s garrett haake outside the d.a. s office. legal analyst glenn kirschner joins us as well. garrett, what have you seen or heard today, if anything, of the comings and goings? what s the very latest? reporter: chris, we re all operating on the same scraps of information. no signs of costello or cohen yet. that shouldn t be a surprise. the grand jury typically meets in the afternoon. we would expect to potentially see them sometime here in
Chris-jansingMsnbcHeadquartersNew-york-cityDonald-trumpThe-grand-juryIndictmentCourt-houseWarCongressAnticipationDefendersIn the afternoon. we would expect to potentially see them sometime here in the next hour or two. what we have seen is an enhanced police presence downtown as law enforcement has been getting ready, following the same information we are, for the possibility that an indictment could be handed up this week and we could be in vastly uncharted territory with criminal charges against a former president. they don t know either. we understand there s a planning call happening today with law enforcement as they try to figure out what kind of posture they need to take down here at the courthouse and potentially to deal with protests here or other parts of the city. you mentioned costello s mission, the presumption of his mission today, to undermine the credibility of michael cohen. that seems to be where all the evidence is pointing right now. he was handpicked by donald trump s attorneys to come and testify here. he does have that relationship with michael cohen. we know cohen has been largely
IndictmentInformationPossibilityLaw-enforcementPresencePoliceDowntownAfternoonTwoDonald-trumpChargesKindShe told cnn that is he is helping with the fbi. and the leader of the oathkeepers spoke to the fbi also. and there is also the stop the steal organizer, i ve learned that he is responsive to a grand jury subpoena. and eight have pleaded guilty and signed up to cooperate. and finally an informant that we learned about last week, a person who taped what the justice department says is a planning call among the oath keepers in november 2020 on that call, kelly brags about how she is in touch with the campaign. now, speaking to people in the campaign is not necessarily illegal and is not charged as a crime in any of these cases. but there is this pattern that has emerged where people in the oath keepers appear to have believed that they could reach donald trump or people around him and so we re learning new examples of this regularly that includes a call one cooperator overheard on january 6 of steward rhodes trying to reach trump as well as a signal chat that is part of the evidence
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