Transcripts For MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240706 : compa

Transcripts For MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240706

Meeting with japans prime minister. But theres an issue loming over the white house. The Mounting Fallout over bidens handling of classified documents during his post obama years. Thbz has learned one of the classified documents found at the d. C. Office was marked with the highest classification in the u. S. Government. Thats according to a senior u. S. Official and another person familiar. We got that development after attorney general Merrick Garland announced hes appointed a Veteran Prosecutor to serve as Special Counsel to review the documents. Ahead, what were learning about hur and how hes proceeding. Plus the tight rope both the white house and Justice Department are walking considering theres another Special Counsel investigating President Trump. Also this morning, devastation across the southeast. Search and rescue operations are underway after tornadoes in multiple states. By the grace of god, we all survived. We jumped out the car and we all got in the freezer. A lot of praying and calling on jesus. Several people are confirmed dead, one as young as 5, with rescuers saying the death toll could rise. We have an update from one of the hardesthit areas. Devastating storms heading for california as the state is still reeling from mud slides and massive floods. Were going to start with the Mounting Fallout for President Biden over discovery of batches of documents from his post obama years. Joining me now is ken dilanian. First to report that a second batch of documents had been found. Mike memoli at the white house, ali vitali on capitol hill, tom delaware preece, who served during the bush administration. He works at the same firm as the new Special Counsel. So mike, first to you. You report multiple aids who worked for President Biden in the final days of the Obama Administration have been interviewed by federal Law Enforcement. Walk us through the interviews and the tight rope the white house is walking between addressing this head on and not divulging too much information this an active investigation. One reason why this reporting from it myself and carol lee is so important is because it gives us the most insight into what may have happened that led these documents to be found in multiple locations of the president since he left office in the Obama Administration in 2017. Among the individuals interviewed by Law Enforcement is kathy chung. She was the Executive Secretary for vice President Biden. She was involved in helping to pack up his office in the west wing in january of 2017. The process to make room for the incoming president. They believe this was ab inadvertent case that there was never intention to take any documents from the white house that should have been a National Archive document because of the president ial records act or certainly a classified document. Im told by an official at the white house that the reason for this is they dont want to be seen as interfeerping with an ongoing investigation. They are argue figure they were to engage in providing more granule details, thats putting more information that can be seen as trying to influence that debate. This is an argument we have heard them make in a different form as it relates to not wanting to be seen as interfering at all with investigations of donald trump. The former president and potential future rival of joe biden in the election now in this case its both potentially a little bit of a Sin Veer Desire to be seen as abiding by this impartiality of the Justice Department, but also a shield, as we see the Briefing Room right now with reporters. Those have been largely unsatisfying for those of trying to get additional details, including an important question Going Forward which is would President Biden be interviewed himself as part of this ongoing investigation. The doj is investigating a sitting president. And separately a former president , what are we learning about the new Special Counsel and how he will be handling the specific case with President Biden . The white house doesnt have to be silent. Its a legal strategy under investigation, but if you think youre innocent, youre free extoex plain the facts to the public. They have choezen got to do that. But in terms of rob hur, hes a registered republican who served in a top job in the trump Justice Department. He was an aid to Rod Rosenstein when Robert Mueller was being appointed. Then he went on to become the trumpappointed u. S. Attorney in maryland. Hes a republican who has won wide praise for his handling of a variety of complexes cases from Gang Violence to public corruption. And most people i talked to think hes going to play this down the middle, by the book. He will no doubt set up his own staff and have offices away from the Justice Department. He will build on the review thats already been conducted by the republican u. S. Attorney in chicago, who has been interviewing aids, but didnt have Subpoena Power or a grnd jury. Hur can call upon all those tools. I would expect at some point he would request an interview with President Biden to ask him what he knew about these documents. So we should be waiting for that to happen. So you worked in the doj and at the same firm as the Special Counsel. What can you tell us about how he tackles his work and what do you expect for him in this case . In mien, rob hur is the Perfect Choice for this job. Hes super smart, he has sound legal judgment and a man of integrity. As you reported, hes received wide bipartisan praise throughout his career. I think hes going to tackle this investigation precisely as he pledged he would do independent, dogged. He will get to the bottom of this. Im 100 certain he will seek to interview President Biden as part of this process. The first few days he has to get a staff, track the documents and then we will await his final determination. How long do you think Something Like this could take . I would say months,s no years. These independent investigations are like a gas that expands to fill the allotted space. But rob is going to move superer quickly. The record is not going to be that extensive. The scope of this investigation is narrow so as i said, i would anticipate months, not years. Republicans wanted a Special Counsel. They got one. How should we anticipate House Republicans to proceed here . We know republicans already suggested bidenfocused investigations would be a top priority. Reporter they are already moving forward on those. They will continue doing so, even with the existence of the Special Counsel on this. When doj is involved, it becomes that much more difficult for congressional committees to get the information that they are requesting. Nevertheless, were seeing newly minted chairs of judiciary and intel already asking for more information on this. Whether its from the director of National Intelligence for Damage Awe Setsments and just a better sense of whats in the documents at hand here. Many of them, especiallien the senate side, did the same thing after the maralago documents in the trump instance were made public aez well. Theres parody in terms of what they are asking for. In the last few minutes, what were watching is the potential for some of these committees to be jockeying for control of the investigations. I listened to speaker Kevin Mccarthy saying that whoever looks into these biden documents is unclear in terms of what committee it would be housed under. We have seen the Oversight Chairman in the last few minutes trying to link these biden documents and the existence at the biden home to the residence that hunter biden was using at the time, trying to link the fact that hes already investigating hunter biden. Now he wants a claum over the biden documents as well. Unclear at this point which committee will be running point on that, but this could be one way they take this into their per view, as Thee Committees push forward as doj does the same. One of the classified documents found at bidens d. C. Office was marked with the highest classification in the u. S. Government. The top secret sensitive information. Members of congress are caling for a National Security damage assessment. Could one have already been done in the early stages of the investigation before we even knew about the existence of these documents . Its possible. We havent had reporting that that early investigation included a risk assessment. I dont think its likely, but were Hearing Reports even from ken that the fbi has been out there talking to people. But yet, nothing that sounds quite like a risk or damage assessment. I think theres a larger issue that arises from that. Which is we have way too much top secret information out there. We clearly either arent following the guidelines and protocols for having those documents leave a skiff, the secure appropriate room for such matters, and thats what i hope this gets to. Just a better method of handling and maybe even ab outright prohibition on removing top secret from that, no matter what your rank or title. Its fraught with peril. Tom, you recently said that although both joe biden and donald trump were found to have classified documents, biden has a better defense. Can you explain . Sure. I think bidens defense is twofold. Number one, that the volume of documents that he allegedly took out or did take out from the government is smaller. A small volume than what President Trump did. Second point is the biden team is going to emphasize cooperation. The trump team had long negotiations with the Justice Department and the Justice Department didnt feel that the trump team was fully forthcoming, whereas the biden team is flagging transparency and cooperation. Im not sure they have lived up to those promises, but if i were in bidens shoes, those are the lines of Defense Awould deploy. Trans, you were talking about what could change here in terms of removing documents from the skiff. Who is responsible for making sure that whats there stays there, and who would you want to see be subject to changes or stricter restrictions . What id like to see since both investigations involve end of term transitional issues, why wont the National Archives just take over at that point. Why is it up to a relatively midor lowlevel clerical position or assistant to start boxing things up and hope they get it right. What id like to see is the National Archives come in and say its the end of the administration. Were here to help you get it right. This has to come back to us. We dont see this accidental boxing of things. Thats what id like to see. While we have been talking, it appears that Speaker Mccarthy has sent President Biden an invitation to a state of the Union Address on february 7th. What do we know . Mccarthy saying its his solemn obligation to inviolent the president for this State Of The Union update. That would be about four weeks from now on february 7th. And i do think its important for us to point out. This is jet another period. The outset of a period of divided government. It will be a time when mccarthy and his Conference View their role as the majority here in congress. Largely to be a check on the biden administration. We have spent this entire segment talking about the investigations that are already beginning in earnest from multiple committees here, republican led, asking for documents, even just in the instance of the latest requests from the oversight committee. They are asking for information by the end of january, which means biden would be coming here for a state of the Union Address in the midst of multiple committees investigating him on the documents front as well as his families and other pieces of his administration. Thank you all. Coming up, at least eight people were killed by a powerful series of tornadoes that ripped through the southeast yesterday. With alabama bearing the brunt of the damage. Were live from selma with the latest on the recovery. Plus George Santos says hes lived an honest life, but more of his republican colleagues arent so sure. The growing calls for his resident i guess naigs. 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