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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141218:19:29:00

killed, apparently, by u.s. air strikes? well, i think we have to temper this a little bit. several of these individuals, when we say six weeks, there was a report in late july that one of these individuals was actually killed. so the other one, the amir of mosul, or isis commander, he was (s÷ @&h(lc% sources. so some of these individuals seem to be fairly high ranking. certainly, if he s the commander of mosul for isis, that s a senior commander. but this is not that recent. this is it s kind of odd they re making this announcement right our. because, you know, some of these guys have been dead for a while now. and, you know, just to be put this in context, in conversations i ve had with folks in u.s. intelligence, the reaction that i ve gotten has been u.s. air strikes really are not that effective in the sense that they have stopped isis campaign temporarily. but they re not achieving that many big hits in terms of senior isis leadership or in terms of

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141218:19:19:00

what happened this summer. from a perspective of this past summer when isis really emerged on the world scene, it was after they managed to overrun the second largest city in iraq, which is the city of mosul. and that s when we started hearing his name. that s when he became this very prominent figure. now, keep in mind before this summer, isis was really concentrating on fighting inside syria, but then they kind of shock and awed their way into iraq by overrunning mosul. symbolically has a tremendous impact on the morale of the group, on the morale of the leadership. and there s also a kind of difficult point here. and that is many of these leaders seek what they call martyrdom. to die fighting an enemy like the united states. so in some sense, what tends to happen is after the elimination of this type of leadership, we see this being used as a rallying cry to recruit more followers, to recruit more leadership in the organization and to raise these people to

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141218:19:20:00

give them a sense of, if you will, heroic status on the battlefield. so there is going to be, perhaps a negative backlash in the long run that this is used to recruit more followers. and lastly, would i be correct in saying that since taking mosu, which was a very dramatic turn for isis, that the group has had more difficulty acquiring more territory? we haven t heard recently of them being able to take another major city. are they now not advancing territorially the way they were a few p months ago? you would be correct in making that assumption. and from the perspective of they have not taken another city on the scale of mosul. particularly with they managed to do so in a matter of days earlier this summer. they have been able to take over smaller towns. kobani in syria along the turkish border. they ve taken over some small they ve taken over some small towns

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141218:19:18:15

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141218:19:18:15
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