give them a sense of, if you will, heroic status on the battlefield. so there is going to be, perhaps a negative backlash in the long run that this is used to recruit more followers. >> and lastly, would i be correct in saying that since taking mosu, which was a very dramatic turn for isis, that the group has had more difficulty acquiring more territory? we haven't heard recently of them being able to take another major city. are they now not advancing territorially the way they were a few p months ago? >> you would be correct in making that assumption. and from the perspective of they have not taken another city on the scale of mosul. particularly with they managed to do so in a matter of days earlier this summer. they have been able to take over smaller towns. kobani in syria along the turkish border. they've taken over some small they've taken over some small towns