who wanted to stand up and be counted, who wanted to take a stand against russia s, notjust take a stand against this aggression, but also be seen to be doing something about it. it s been a really extraordinary moment and such a privilege as a journalist to have even just as a small part in the telling of this story, because so many are listening and so many agree with us that this story matters. and you referenced, lyse, in your answer, zanny, let s bring in zanny minton beddoes, editor in chief of the economist. i want to ask you about your interview with president zelensky in a moment, zanny, but i wonder what you would say in response to what we ve heard already from colleagues in kyiv in lviv? well, i would absolutely second lyre in in saluting alexei and irina and all the ukrainian journalists who i can t imagine what it is like to report on a war in my own country. and i would also add to that saluting lyse, because i am absolutely not a war correspondent. i went to kyiv for tw
journalists do this and telling us about it on, on social media, and they help us as journalists who ve come to come to ukraine to report on this war of our time. and we can only begin to imaginejust how, how difficult it is and having to work, your office becomes your home, your bomb shelter becomes your office, and you know, staying with the story. so, well done. and like you, i loved 0leskiy s, you know, what s a million twitter followers? i d prefer to be able to walk in the park and go to a cafe at night in the great city of kyiv and not to not to cover a war. i always say in ourjobs that, you know, emotion is not shouldn t be part of our journalism, but empathy certainly should be. and empathy, especially now, i can t remember, maybe since the events of september the 11th, which of course, was a totally different times in terms of technology and the shape of the world where so many people have been interested in this war, who wanted to stand up and be counted, who wanted to tak