And doctors are life savers. They are incredible. And we heard a lot in the trial about thinking the unthinkable. And, you know, no one wanted to think that this could be possible, as you heard there in the clip from the father. How could a nurse on a ward do Something Like this . And i think, you know, the manipulation, the fact that she altered records, she was clever, she was calculating, and she pulled the wool over the eyes of her colleagues who did not think everfor a minute that she was responsible. You know, it started with her being an association. She was in the room. She was around a lot. And that raised concerns. But, you know, i dont think anyone actually thought a nurse was operating in plain sight on a ward and in fact, using the most innocuous of materials milk, air, saline, to attack and kill the babies that shes looking after. Tell us a little more, caroline, about what we learned about lucy letby during this trial, because, of course, there was focus on her social me
So those doctors sat with you. They poured out their worries. Did they talk about lucy letby . No, no. They talked actually at the time they didnt name anybody. What they talked about was in what they told when they contacted the chief constable, the fact that a nurse had been moved. They didnt actually name the nurse to me because i was at that meeting. I didnt have a lot of time because i had to make a decision on whether we were commencing an investigation or not. So i was focused on actually what does this mean medically . They told me that somebody had been moved and all the events had stopped. But i wasnt really drawn into that that much at that time. My first thoughts were as an sio, that if i had been doing something and Somebody Else had been moved, then i would stop as well. So, you know, i didnt get drawn into much about what that meant. I was more focused at that point on what has actually happened. So thats what our line of investigation was going to focus on initially. So
she d go through medical notes. she would talk to us. she was cooperative. she engaged. but she didn t.she didn t respond in any. there was no empathy or sympathy with what s going on at all. i mean, there are people who look at her and say there s no way she can have done this. it s circumstantial evidence. she looks as though butter wouldn t melt. it s not possible. well, yeah, absolutely. and that s a danger, isn t it, for us to all be drawn into that. you know, and it s an example to us all, really, of notjudging a book by its cover and asking the question at all times, you know, from the very beginning. and, you know, we ve got to accept and understand the evidence in this case has been, i believe, significant and has taken us to understand that lucy letby is a killer.
by what was going on around her. she was just very clinical in her answers, so she was comfortable. she d go through medical notes. she would talk to us. she was cooperative. she engaged. but she didn t.she didn t respond in any. there was no empathy or sympathy with what s gone on at all. i mean, there are people who look at her and say there s no way she can t have done this. it s circumstantial evidence. she looks as though butter wouldn t melt. it s not possible. well, yeah, absolutely. and that s a danger, isn t it, for us to all be drawn into that. you know, and it s an example to us all, really, of notjudging a book by its cover and asking the question at all times, you know, from the very beginning. and, you know, we ve got to accept and understand the evidence in this case has been, i believe, significant and has taken us to understand that