karim khan, the icc s chief prosecutor. she joins us from the hague. cnn s matthew chance is monitoring russian reaction. he joins us as well as does cnn s ivan watson from ukraine. this is a story he and 360 have been reporting on extensively. we start things off with carissa ward and her interview at the hague. carissa. reporter: john, well, karim khan was keen to tell us that this is really just the first step in what promises to be a long journey. the arrest warrants that were given out today for president putin and also for the russia high commissioner for children maria l vova-belova, these are just the first two essentially. there may be more coming. there may be other areas that they will be exploring. there is no shortage of alleged war crimes that have taken place in ukraine. the prosecutor s office here from the icc have made multiple trips to ukraine. but they were keen really to stress the importance of this historic day. take a look. there are many differe
america because part of this program is not only to convict these criminals by issuing warrants as a first step but also to remove the state immunity from russian frozen funds. europe is working now very aggressively to confiscate hundreds of billions of dollars of frozen funds to pay ukraine for reconstruction. it doesn t have to be paid by american taxpayers or german taxpayers or french taxpayers. there s money stolen by putin s cronies from russia and kept abroad that could be actually transferred to ukraine. so clarissa, we talk about the idea of other possible charges, and you did with karim khan right there. any sense of what other evidence they re collecting at this point to try to make those other charges? well, i think perhaps understandably, john, they re being a little circumspect about giving any details about ongoing investigations. but what karim khan did say is that essentially ukraine is a crime scene right now and whether it s the massacre of
freeze. and i think we should not frame our policy, a policy of winning in an exaggerated fear of a possible escalation which i think is very unlikely. possible escalation which i think is very unlikely- very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodrins, very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so much - very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so much for. very unlikely. lieutenant, ben - hodgins, thanks so much forjoining us on context. we will of course continue talking about this, the various military strategies, but as i mentioned, there so many strands of conversation around the ukrainian conflict. the pope has been meeting with ukrainian children. he lamented what he called the massacre of bucha , as he held up a battered ukrainian flag which had been brought to him from the city where dozens of civilians have been found dead in the streets. i m wondering when you see those im