freeze. and i think we should not frame our policy, a policy of winning in an exaggerated fear of a possible escalation which i think is very unlikely. possible escalation which i think is very unlikely- very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodrins, very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so much - very unlikely. lieutenant, ben hodgins, thanks so much for. very unlikely. lieutenant, ben - hodgins, thanks so much forjoining us on context. we will of course continue talking about this, the various military strategies, but as i mentioned, there so many strands of conversation around the ukrainian conflict. the pope has been meeting with ukrainian children. he lamented what he called the massacre of bucha , as he held up a battered ukrainian flag which had been brought to him from the city where dozens of civilians have been found dead in the streets. i m wondering when you see those im