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now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson. hello and welcome to political thinking, a conversation with, rather than a news interrogation of, someone who shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is a daughter of what we still euphemistically call the troubles the 30 years or more of violence which scarred northern ireland and the british mainland divided communities and claimed the lives of more than 3000 people. emma little pengelly is the new deputy first minister of northern ireland. she grew up on the border with the south, the place with the highest death toll outside belfast. her father was arrested and imprisoned in france for involvement in arms trafficking for hardline loyalists back in the 1980s, something he still denies to this day, though, he did once say publicly he would oppose compromise to the bitter end, to the death. compromise that is with people like the first minister of northern ireland, miche ....
now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson hello and welcome to political thinking, a conversation with, rather than a news interrogation of, someone who shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is a daughter of what we still euphemistically called the troubles the 30 years or more of violence which scarred northern ireland and the british mainland divided communities and claimed the lives of more than 3000 people. emma little pengelly is the new deputy first minister of northern ireland. she grew up on the border with the south, the place with the highest death toll outside belfast. her father was arrested and imprisoned in france for involvement in arms trafficking for hardline loyalists back in the 1980s, something he still denies to this day, though, he did once say publicly he would oppose compromise to the bitter end, to the death. compromise that is with people like the first minister of northern ireland, mich ....